That is why I didn't think it worked I used science. Now if you use Politics of course it will work.

This is a dead horse boys. Bubble Bee not withstanding, which by the way is an old wives tale.

 

At least science is willing to admit mistakes and correct them......politics is full of BS and half truths.http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0507194511.htm

 

Real question is who's science.
Science told Edison you couldn't make a light bulb for a 100 tries but it worked on the 101.
My own science experimenting with hydrogen has proved lots of ways it doesn't work. Does than mean it doesn't work?
How many ways have you tried to make a light bulb I mean hydrogen cell/generator?
I'm sure there's still people that think the world is flat, that a light bulb doesn't work either, and it's better to eat a horse than ride it.

 

While you are at it, would you figure out how to turn my lead tire weights to gold............I'm sure science just hasn't tried long enough......at least Edison was working to perfect a know viable theory, not a disproven one.

 

Since you agree to disagree then why are you still here??????
Your theory is it doesn't work.
Lots of scientific studies prove it does work as well as lots of individuals doing there own experimenting also proves it works.
You "know it doesn't work" so don't use it. I think you've made it clear to everyone what you think.

 

Well I looked at the same place you said that science proved it didn't work and did a hydrogen search and got all kinds of thing on how to get it to work there is several different things. If you search you can find proof of anything not working the only proven proof I have found of HHO not working was faraday’s technology has changed or advanced allot since then .



http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0518121002.htm

most of moderen day since came from someone garge

 

I know you don't think your a troll but if you post a link that is suppose to prove a point then at least try to have it actually prove that point. The article you posted said the group was working on a catalysis for hydrogen. Fair enough but how does that equate to using said catalysis in an on truck system to generate hydrogen in sufficient quantities to make a difference. While not using up said energy in the catalytic process.

 

Well, I know that hydrogen delivered a wide range of results during blimp usage, and an F-117A has less chance of flying than that bumblebee.

 

Tree DR can I inject the hydrogen into the air horn on my third gen? I have a 1 quart mason jar that I am going to make the hydrogen with. Did you guys figure on the third gen that with the 3 injection events if the hydrogen is doing any good? I know that at 850 rpm idle that the intake is opening alot now at 2500 rpm even more so. Now what I am getting at, did you seen any improvement with the CR ? Are you running it on your 07.5? That is a couple of many questions I have on this. My girlfriends grandad put this same kit on a 96 chevy suburban with the 5.7 gas motor and he used 1/3 of a teaspoon of baking soda as the electrolysist in the one quart jar. His mileage went from 16 mpg to 31 hwy so I know that it works on these gas motors, and that is hand caculated. Does and is it going to work on my CR with the 3 injection events? I also am running every thing in my sig except the edge ez right now. Is the hydrogen going to burn the extra fuel up, and do you know of anyone running a programmer or heavy fueling chip on there diesel with hydrogen injection? If it works and my kit is going to work can I tap the stock air horn with a 1/2 inch pipe thread hose barb to inject the hydrogen? Thanks alot for the help in advance

 

Try this they are out of Cumming Ga I am thinking of trying them when I get back from Iraq I am from Ellijay the mason jars are ok but will not produce much hho and get very hot I have melted lids and the Plexiglas inside before which is very dangerous I have built several generators the mason jar was the first one on a small truck was ok just not the result I was wanting to you will need two to three liter a minute to make any difference but this place has hho generators for 75 bucks that produce that much and right close to home I have not tried one yet from them but that is chepper than I can make one.



http://www.marchlabs.com/

 

I still haven't taken time to do more testing with my 6.7. I'm going to in the next few weeks though.
Here's a site that gives lots of good information on how to build a cell. www.hydrogengenerator.cc go down about 3/4 of the page and look for Tero Cell. There are several others there also.
I don't think you should use glass for a container. There are lots of plastic containers that will work better/safer.

 

I have watched this thread for a long time and have a friend that worked with them on his gas powered Toyota with mixed results. I believe that it will work under the right conditions and probably in very narrow performance ranges.

The one test that would make the most sense would be to hook up a bottle of hydrogen and a bottle of oxygen to a truck and vary the volumes used under many different conditions so that you could graph out exactly what you actually needed to get any gains and them calculate what it would take to make the necessary volumes of gas and what it would take to do that. I believe that this would be the most scientific way to accomplish this.

Then you could build a system that would produce what you actually over a large range of performance parameters and most likely it would need to be computer controlled.

What do you think.

By the way I do know of a system that will actually double the mileage of vehicles that run on gas but it would be impossible to bring it to market with the way our smog and testing laws work. If the price hits above five dollars a gallon I will market the plans and some of the parts.

This is not junk science and is based on very sound science and math. I was involved with some of the testing which was the main part of the system in the late seventies and it worked at that time with fifty percent improvement in fuel economies and lower emissions. Most of the testing was done on engine dynos with some on the road testing (I will say that it did have some drive ability issues that we could not overcome because we did not have the computers like we have today.

 

I've been putting of getting the hydrogen back on my truck because I have to get it to the dealer to get some factory recalls done. The mech. would probably ask lots of questions.

 

The problem with your experiment is that you are providing the Hydrogen, not producing it for use....therein lies the inefficiency.

 

I understand that I am not producing it. We know how much we can produce with some of the well engineered systems available and we know what the current draw will be with those systems, what we don't know is what amount of hydrogen injection is best under what conditions. If we knew this and graphed it out, then all we would need to do is match up a system to cover those needs for the best results and we could also end the argument about whether it works or not. I already know that it will work based on chemistry and what happens during combustion, what I don't know is how well?

I also know that it will cost some energy to make the hydrogen, the question is how much will it cost in relation to the slight gain we might make.

Remember that internal combustion engines when cruising down the hwy at light throttle are only about 6-10 percent efficient in relation to the amount of fuel (btu's) burned and if we get a 20-30% gain the that's only 20-30% of the original 6-10% efficiency we started with.