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Old Nov 22, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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Bumping this thread for you. Hopefully somebody with more experience can give you some suggestions.

Originally Posted by Jeepbeav
My first question is for the Turbo Unit do I just pay for the rings gaskets and studs and rebuild it, or should I just use the low hours Engine to piece one together.
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:17 AM
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Did anyone ever mate the 3.3 to an auto
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeepbeav
My first question is for the Turbo Unit do I just pay for the rings gaskets and studs and rebuild it, or should I just use the low hours Engine to piece one together.
Rebuild the the TA engine. The NA engine has a different compression ratio, injectors, pump calibration, etc. and would require some in-depth help from your local Cummins distributor if you were going to combine the two and make one runner.

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My intensions are to build a Daily driver TDIwyse style, using a TJ 5speed or a JK 5 speed donor.
TJ 5-speed - assume you're referring to NV3550 or AX15
JK 5-speed - never made such a thing, although you can use an NSG370 6-speed (which replaced NV3550).

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I plan on using the PC SAE4 to Chrysler 727 ?
I know there is information on this that I will have to re- read in this thread.
I do want Power steering or at least PS Assist

I will build engine on stand with Guages and everything before I even obtain a Donor vehicle.
TDIWyse and others on this board have made the Phoenix stuff work but I'm going a different route and had my adapters Cnc'd. As for the power steering, I have a couple options but haven't chosen one yet.

Anybody here get their PS working? I think the S10 was working on it?
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:27 AM
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Good call on the JK 5 speed.. i knew that!
What about auto trans? I have an option to by a cj7 with a rust free yj tub, but it has an auto. not sure if it is the gm th400 or the Chrysler tf999 or other. Also not sure if it has the Quadratrac All wheel drive which would be a deal breaker,
But just checking my options
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeepbeav
Good call on the JK 5 speed.. i knew that!
What about auto trans? I have an option to by a cj7 with a rust free yj tub, but it has an auto. not sure if it is the gm th400 or the Chrysler tf999 or other. Also not sure if it has the Quadratrac All wheel drive which would be a deal breaker,
But just checking my options
Haven't seen it yet, but adaption would be easy with the PC adapter. You can be the first!
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Old Dec 3, 2009 | 11:36 AM
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That is one of those times that being the first doesn't sound like much fun, Like drinking the Kool-aid at a compound....

There is a place near that builds custom torque converters seems like that and maybe a shift kit. Never know I would think it would feel slower than if you had a manual, but I think that is true for every engine.
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 10:23 AM
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Did you get your power steering working. Would you tell me the parts numbers for the gear and bearings that you got for the pump you used?

95Z28A4
Are you going to set your engine up for power steering? If you you are how are you going to do it?
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 06:55 AM
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I have two 3.3s one turbo, With blow by that needs rebuilt,

And one NA that is almost new but has a crack in the lower block due to Spun rod.. These details have not been confirmed.

I am thinking about rebuilding the Turbo and giving the NA to the buyer. Does anyone have any intrest or suggestions.

As my wife confirms everynight, I should not have bought these so close to Christmas...


one not
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Old Jan 4, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Great Thread!

Wow...I just stumbled on the website while searching for exactly what you guys have done. I get so mad at the auto industry for not offering small diesel engines in there vehicles. I have read this from beginning to end and I am so fired up about what you guys are doing i am wanting to start looking for a good doner vehicle. What an amazing way to stay on topic...good job!

Andy
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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never did put the powersteering on my truck. I have part#s for the gear and bearings and will post them for you.
I drive it to much and have been looking for a different truck to put the engine in. I have 179,000 on the sonoma and it is a POS. The 3.3 has 49,000miles on it in less than two years and runs great. Looking at putting it in a newer f150 in the next year so don't want to spend anymore on the truck I have.
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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I've been lurking on this page for a long time (but only a member since Oct. 2009, and this is my first post). I've owned a '95 YJ for probably six years now. The 4-cylinder blew up last winter, and I have since been in the process of sourcing things for a diesel swap. I went a little different route, using a Cummins A-series 2.3L engine, but the transmission would be similar, using Phoenix Castings adapter to a dakota bellhousing and AX-15 transmission. I chose the smaller engine because I use my jeep primarily for rock crawling offroad, and having less weight seems to work better.

I have yet to get the adapters, and the clutch parts.

I work for part of an engineering team within Cummins, and work extensively with a B3.3T Tier 4 engine, which is basically the same as all of yours, except there is no intake heater grid, but glow plugs instead. Mechanical and electrical governors still available and such. I don't think this engine is available until sometime in summer of 2010 though haha.

TDIWyse, I also saw you on the TDIClub forums, I have a 2006 TDI, and commented on the jeep swap on that page as well. Nice to see you on here and there.

(after a few emails about the classification of bsfc numbers, I am deleting them just to keep from being questioned. One thing I learned from the military is to be out of sight is to be out of mind... Haha)

My engine swap is still early in the process, but I do have some pictures of the engine wired up on the floor of my garage. My website is www.krieseldiesel.com and just pick Jeep from the menu and whatnot.

Also on my website is a spreadsheet page, in there are some excel sheets for gear selections, fuel mileage tracking, blah blah, bunch of car nerd stuff.

I look forward to following all of your successful engine swaps, and will post more when my project gets further along. Trying to get it on the road for Easter Jeep safari this year... You should all go, it's worth the drive haha!
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 08:52 PM
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brimma, thanks. There's been a lot of great contributors to this thread.

Sonoma, great to hear the little engine is still running well. I'm eager to hear about your next swap and any additional things you've learned about the engine.

Kriesel, THANK YOU for the BSFC data. Where did you get that? What's the reference? It's encouraging to see the efficiency hold in there so well under partial load conditions for a simple mechanical system. That was something I'd been curious about for a long time.

I've been more focused on the liberty CRD as of late. Just about got it setup the way I want it . . .
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Old Jan 5, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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The data is used for sizing power generators. Nothin special. It isn't quite as good as the fuel maps you see with most other things. I remember making massive fuel consumption maps for a couple engines in college.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 07:26 AM
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Thanks. Just out of curiousity, what type of setup did you use for making the maps? Specifically curious as to how you accurately measure the fuel consumed. Do you have some type of highly accurate flow meter on the injection pump in/out ports and subtract those readings to get the consumed fuel?

Also curious if you know what would happen to those BSFC numbers when the power is turned up by increasing the max fuel screw. It looks like the BSFC is approaching an asymptotic thermal efficiency point at its rated output but I'm curious if it eventually rolls over and starts becoming less efficient. And how would one be able to tell that? I'm assuming things like the boost/egt/black smoke would give some clues, but I'm not sure what the hard numbers look like.

Thanks again.
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Old Jan 6, 2010 | 07:35 AM
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Sorry, 'www.kriesediesel.com' does not exist or is not available.

What's up with this? The above is the reply I get for that address.
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