Platte City Mo. pull
#61
I don't drive my truck every day like I used to but I still drive it to work, the grocery store, car wash, dragstrip, ect. I still have a gooseneck hitch in it and I've even towed a trailer with it a couple times this year. I had to make a 100 mile drive at the Diesel Power Challenge to prove streetability. BTW, my pulling truck will run low 11's on #2 diesel in the 1/4 mile too.
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this sounds like last year after this pull...lol...i live in st joe and talk to a few of the local guys that pulled (me included) and the ones who didn't do well were mad about the rules and those who won didn't gripe...
the only gripe i had about the diesel truck pulls around here are the title of the class...because "street diesel" isn't very appropriate...lol
and as for the driving the trucks to the pull to validate the DOT and licensing...I almost trailered my nearly stock 12 valve to the pull last year, so if it broke i wouldn't be waiting til 4 a.m. to get a ride home...some of these guys came from a long ways away and i don't see any problem in trailering them...just my 2 cents
the only gripe i had about the diesel truck pulls around here are the title of the class...because "street diesel" isn't very appropriate...lol
and as for the driving the trucks to the pull to validate the DOT and licensing...I almost trailered my nearly stock 12 valve to the pull last year, so if it broke i wouldn't be waiting til 4 a.m. to get a ride home...some of these guys came from a long ways away and i don't see any problem in trailering them...just my 2 cents
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Nobody said anything about trailering them (at least what I'm hearing), if I was going that far you bet I'd bring a trailer. You don't have to drive the truck there to validate the DOT and licensing. There are several ways to do it. Simple check for plates and registration or everybody load up and lets go cruise the local strip before the hook. The point is:
Period. You want to bring it on a trailer, great, but the same rules still apply. It's the same rule for the DHRA class as well. This isn't "new", it isn't odd, it's the way it's been. But there are still those that choose to ignore it because nobody calls them on it that often at the local brush pulls. You put $2000 up for first prize and you bet your butt they're going to call you on it, as they should. As the class gets sanctioned by more and more associations and they're called on it more and more, they'll get a choice. Move up a class or follow the rules.
Street Diesel Class Overview
The Street Diesel (SD) class is designed for streetable pickup trucks (full-bodied diesel pickup trucks). Valid DOT registration and license plates are mandatory. The vehicle must be four-wheel drive.
The Street Diesel (SD) class is designed for streetable pickup trucks (full-bodied diesel pickup trucks). Valid DOT registration and license plates are mandatory. The vehicle must be four-wheel drive.
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I would't have a problem moving up a class but their is not a class in Missouri and not enough trucks either...
CPMac As for the Hart truck he only wants to pull where he is allowed to slip in above the rules. Yes the truck runs good but almost everywhere I have seen him the truck doesn't follow the rules but they allow him anyway. If he wasn't cheating most of the time and got in with the class he should be in then you'd realize it's not that impressive. Probably why he went home without pulling at Platte City.
First off, Justin is not cheating. Ask him to pop the hood and look for yourself, and hey why don't you look at his data system at the end of the next pull you go to that he's at to look at his rpm's. His truck is not impressive you say? That's why he has beat Painter, Ingram, and serveral other super street trucks. i have not talked to him since Platte City, but i'm sure he did't pull in the super street because he did't want to take a risk of breaking anything since his hometown pull was the next day.
CPMac As for the Hart truck he only wants to pull where he is allowed to slip in above the rules. Yes the truck runs good but almost everywhere I have seen him the truck doesn't follow the rules but they allow him anyway. If he wasn't cheating most of the time and got in with the class he should be in then you'd realize it's not that impressive. Probably why he went home without pulling at Platte City.
First off, Justin is not cheating. Ask him to pop the hood and look for yourself, and hey why don't you look at his data system at the end of the next pull you go to that he's at to look at his rpm's. His truck is not impressive you say? That's why he has beat Painter, Ingram, and serveral other super street trucks. i have not talked to him since Platte City, but i'm sure he did't pull in the super street because he did't want to take a risk of breaking anything since his hometown pull was the next day.
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Smoking S you can cheerlead all you want for Justin but the fact is he is a cheater. I have pulled against him at MMTTPA pulls and he does not follow at least 1 rule. Sorry your wrong.
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Later on, you get on DTR and announce that the board had reconsidered and you were going to add a diesel truck class. Then you stated:
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...1&postcount=62
Yes air shutoffs will be mandatory. As for rules, we are going to be running last years DHRA rules. We needed a class in Missouri and we got one finally. As for enforcing the rules, it probably looks like me and my dad will be doing the tech checks, anybody wanna help?
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...1&postcount=62
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...1&postcount=62
http://www.mmttpainc.com/drules.htm
Right at the top of your rules, we have somewhat important information that appears to be missing from the DHRA rulebook...
First this entire section is missing:
OVERVIEW
Street Diesel
The Street Diesel (SD) class is designed for streetable pickup trucks (full-bodied diesel pickup trucks). Valid DOT registration and license plates are mandatory. The vehicle must be four-wheel drive.
Designations: SD followed by competition number.
Weight breaks: 8000 lbs. Weight is with driver.
Street Diesel
The Street Diesel (SD) class is designed for streetable pickup trucks (full-bodied diesel pickup trucks). Valid DOT registration and license plates are mandatory. The vehicle must be four-wheel drive.
Designations: SD followed by competition number.
Weight breaks: 8000 lbs. Weight is with driver.
Then other key elements also are left out, like:
Street Equipment:
Complete headlight and taillight assemblies (all) are mandatory and must be operative. Complete OEM windshield and windows are mandatory. Windows must be operative per factory specifications; that is, they must open and close via OEM electrical or mechanical means.
Complete headlight and taillight assemblies (all) are mandatory and must be operative. Complete OEM windshield and windows are mandatory. Windows must be operative per factory specifications; that is, they must open and close via OEM electrical or mechanical means.
Batteries:
The batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver compartment or forward of the radiator core support.
The batteries must be securely mounted. They may not be located in the driver compartment or forward of the radiator core support.
Body:
The body must be the OEM truck body, including the full bed floor. The body must retain full sheet metal. Metal after-market hoods are permitted. Fiberglass is prohibited. The hood must be closed and securely latched while the vehicle is hooked to the sled. Section in BOLD missing.
The body must be the OEM truck body, including the full bed floor. The body must retain full sheet metal. Metal after-market hoods are permitted. Fiberglass is prohibited. The hood must be closed and securely latched while the vehicle is hooked to the sled. Section in BOLD missing.
Credentials:
All drivers must have a valid state driver’s license.
All drivers must have a valid state driver’s license.
Driveline:
An OEM transmission and transfer case are mandatory. They must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup.
An OEM transmission and transfer case are mandatory. They must have been an option on a one-ton or smaller pickup.
Fuel:
The fuel must be pump #1/#2 diesel only. Soy/Biodiesel fuel is permitted. Off-road diesel fuel is prohibited.
The fuel must be pump #1/#2 diesel only. Soy/Biodiesel fuel is permitted. Off-road diesel fuel is prohibited.
Fuel Injection Pump:
The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM engine make-specific pump only. Dual high-pressure common-rail fuel pumps or HPOPs are permitted. The P7100 injection pump, if equipped, must utilize a stock-appearing governor. Section in BOLD left out.
The fuel injection pump is limited to a stock-appearing, OEM engine make-specific pump only. Dual high-pressure common-rail fuel pumps or HPOPs are permitted. The P7100 injection pump, if equipped, must utilize a stock-appearing governor. Section in BOLD left out.
Interior:
A complete interior, including dashboard, door panels, headliner, etc., is mandatory. Two matching front seats are mandatory. Aftermarket seats are permitted; they must be fully upholstered. All factory controls (lights, signals, horn, windows, wipers, etc.) must be retained and be operative.
A complete interior, including dashboard, door panels, headliner, etc., is mandatory. Two matching front seats are mandatory. Aftermarket seats are permitted; they must be fully upholstered. All factory controls (lights, signals, horn, windows, wipers, etc.) must be retained and be operative.
#67
Exatcally..... tell Justin to go to ONE JUST ONE DHRA event and let them tech him for the street class or for all thats worth you take your truck as well... Face it YOU made the rules in the MMTTPA to fit Justins truck and you built a Mirror image of it in your truck.. Now your mad you cant pull except in your association or brush pulls... You had to have seen this comming. At the rules meeting we tried to get you to instate the 2007 DHRA rulebook but you had to make changes and at pulls you are making exceptions.
#69
Smokin S I now realize you are the one letting him cheat after reading some more of these posts. If you want your association to grow and have more than three or four competitors then you should follow the rules for everybody. I'm not sure how many rules Justin doesn't follow but I know his pump in not even close to being stock appearing even if you don't consider the governor. If you only bend the rules for your buddies then nobody else will want to pull.
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Are these rules made by people who don't want to spend any money on their trucks? I have been to several pulls and I can't see why somebody would want to watch a truck pull that they just "unhooked" from the livestock trailer and that is "street legal" get 3/4 the way down the track while the track offical walks beside him and puke out.
#71
Are these rules made by people who don't want to spend any money on their trucks? I have been to several pulls and I can't see why somebody would want to watch a truck pull that they just "unhooked" from the livestock trailer and that is "street legal" get 3/4 the way down the track while the track offical walks beside him and puke out.
We are talking about Street Diesl Not Work Stock... And even work stock has some very impressive trucks that pull a trailer on a daily basis and still lay 500+ HP to the ground. Obviously you havent been to many pulls...
#72
Whats the difference? Every truck that pulls in work stock is bone stock. I DOUBT IT. Why do stock trucks and street diesel pull in the same class lots of times? Isn't that unfair to the "work stock"?
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If you come to a DHRA event and the event is teched proper then each truck that hooks in work stock should meet the proper qualifications to pull in the class. Why do they have a class as "boring" as work stock? Because it's a beginnner class, you don't need big money to hook in it.
I can't even begin to tell you the amount of money I've spent on my Street Diesel class truck. Afraid of spending money? Hardly. I've spent plenty.
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Mtomac,
Awesome pull man, it just goes to show how far diesel performance has come along. Such that the 1st place finisher can still drive the truck on the street and does.
Where are you from?
Awesome pull man, it just goes to show how far diesel performance has come along. Such that the 1st place finisher can still drive the truck on the street and does.
Where are you from?
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Are these rules made by people who don't want to spend any money on their trucks? I have been to several pulls and I can't see why somebody would want to watch a truck pull that they just "unhooked" from the livestock trailer and that is "street legal" get 3/4 the way down the track while the track offical walks beside him and puke out.