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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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I really think the, "holding together" question is in everyone's minds, especially us Dmax owners. The Nasty Girl is awesome, Keith wanted a 1000hp daily driver, obvoiusly he doesn't drive it daily on the big tune, but he wanted a driver. We do not know how long a Dmax engine built this way will hold up, because no one has done it before with a Dmax. The innerds, turbos, injectors and lift pumps are state of the art for Dmax after market. It will be interesting to watch and see. The common rail is the key, the strides that have been made in a few short years are really something. The 12 valves will be considered classics before long, really fun and got have one for old times sake, but the new common rails in all the brands will rule for sure.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:25 AM
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I bet a dollar to a donut that Kyle Michael's truck is at those power levels, and has been for a year or more. His engine is the least of his problem. He breaks other stuff, but the engine just roars along.

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I really think the, "holding together" question is in everyone's minds, especially us Dmax owners. The Nasty Girl is awesome, Keith wanted a 1000hp daily driver, obvoiusly he doesn't drive it daily on the big tune, but he wanted a driver. We do not know how long a Dmax engine built this way will hold up, because no one has done it before with a Dmax. The innerds, turbos, injectors and lift pumps are state of the art for Dmax after market. It will be interesting to watch and see. The common rail is the key, the strides that have been made in a few short years are really something. The 12 valves will be considered classics before long, really fun and got have one for old times sake, but the new common rails in all the brands will rule for sure.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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It seems to me that after all the internal mods (pistons, rods, cam, block girdle, head mods etc. etc.) the.
it doesnt have any block mods as far as I know. The pistons are stock pistons that have been cut down.

madsens engine is all stock right as far as internals?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by duratothemax
it doesnt have any block mods as far as I know. The pistons are stock pistons that have been cut down.

madsens engine is all stock right as far as internals?
Maybe I didn't read the post right on another site. I thought it did have some lower end work, which I would expect on any engine at that power level. I highly doubt that a stock block could hold 4 X the power of the stock levels. Especially with all the damage associated with what would be called now, modest power adders. Most were having cracked mains and block supports over 800 Hp..
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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the only thing It has in the bottom I THINK are ARP main studs

is madsens engine ALL stock?
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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If that's a stock dmax engine (gut wise) I'm very impressed. That's an impressive feat for any engine. Dmax or cummins. Kudos to the bowtie boys.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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pretty sure it has aftermarket rods but i may be wrong
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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Crower's I believe!

Let me find a list that was posted on another forum!
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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Yes, it has CROWER rods and a host of other mods. Cam, piston work, head work, what I would characterize as medium/large twin turbos, etc.

The engine was only built a week ago. LOL. Tuning is just getting started.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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Congrats are in order. I am also intrested in the "Hold together" question, not because it is a duramax but because it is 1000hp.

Good Job.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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It seems to me that after all the internal mods (pistons, rods, cam, block girdle, head mods etc. etc.) the heads are going to be the weakest link. The last runs reported glycol boiling out and they found that the injectors were lifting out of their cup bores in the head. Some were saying that another clip will hold it, but I seem to think that the high internal pressures are putting that Aluminum into its limits for strength. Now before all the bricks start flying about the Nitromethane dragsters using aluminum, true, but they only last about 10 seconds.

As far as how long it lasts, who knows. Kinda cool to have a Canadian flag on it, not to mention from good ol Alberta.

I'd almost agree on the heads but there are 2 factors helping us here. The AL heads are thicker in deck surface, and we have more studs per hole per unit area than the Cummins head. More clamping force and less length and width will help keep distortions in check (we hope... or so the theory goes).
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Awesome power guys.Congrats to Keith,Don M,Nathan ,and all involved with the project! Hold long will it hold up.......with 1000HP at the ground,if it lasted a week it would be worth it JK.
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Juice?
I'd almost agree on the heads but there are 2 factors helping us here. The AL heads are thicker in deck surface, and we have more studs per hole per unit area than the Cummins head. More clamping force and less length and width will help keep distortions in check (we hope... or so the theory goes).
I've always said thats one reason the Duramaxes don't have quite the head gasket problems. What is it, something like 22 studs per head...we have 26 on our whole head??

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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Got Juice?
I'd almost agree on the heads but there are 2 factors helping us here. The AL heads are thicker in deck surface, and we have more studs per hole per unit area than the Cummins head. More clamping force and less length and width will help keep distortions in check (we hope... or so the theory goes).
Thats a very good point. I wasn't really worried about the clamping of the head to the block, but the flex of the head surface and the ability to hold all the sealing components in place, IE. valves and injectors. I was talking with EMSI and we were wondering if the injector cups are threaded into the head like many industrial Cats and Waukesha engines. The 3400 series Cats have cups threaded into the head with the injector clamped into it. I have not seen the cutaway of the injector cups in the DM engine. If the cups are just press fit with a hold down clamp, further head mods may be in order to better hold the injector cup.

My $0.02...
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Old Feb 1, 2007 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
Thats a very good point. I wasn't really worried about the clamping of the head to the block, but the flex of the head surface and the ability to hold all the sealing components in place, IE. valves and injectors. I was talking with EMSI and we were wondering if the injector cups are threaded into the head like many industrial Cats and Waukesha engines. The 3400 series Cats have cups threaded into the head with the injector clamped into it. I have not seen the cutaway of the injector cups in the DM engine. If the cups are just press fit with a hold down clamp, further head mods may be in order to better hold the injector cup.

My $0.02...

Yes, they are press fit... and do need help on the LB7's

LLY/LBZ/LMM do not have injector sleeves.
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