Payload ?
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Payload ?
Does anyone here have any information as to whether or not Ram will be upgrading their payload #'s anytime soon for the 3500 SRW HD's? We're replacing our current fifth wheel with a new and heavier one. If Ram will get their payloads up to where Ford and GM are for a similar truck, I will be sooo happy. Thanks for any info.
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Not likely. I pull a big fifth wheel toy hauler. Depending on the number of toys my trailer gross weight will range from 15 - 17 K. I have pulled it with an SRW and the pulling was fine. It's the cornering and winds that can pose a problem. I never felt unsafe, but I drove very conservatively. I don't think I would recommend an SRW of any brand for pulling a large fifth wheel.
The new Dodge DRW one tons ride sooo much better than their earlier brothers. I actually enjoy driving it down the road, even when empty. The DRW makes pulling the fifth wheel way more stable and comforting. When I swooping around the corners on windy roads here in Oregon it feels......Good.
The new Dodge DRW one tons ride sooo much better than their earlier brothers. I actually enjoy driving it down the road, even when empty. The DRW makes pulling the fifth wheel way more stable and comforting. When I swooping around the corners on windy roads here in Oregon it feels......Good.
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He is actually comparing the unladen weight of the truck to the GVWR (10,100lbs) for the 3500 srw. As the truck weighs around 8000lbs+ that leaves 2100lbs max. As the Ford and Chev don't weigh as much empty and the GVWR is greater they have a larger "payload".
#6
I understand the difference between payload and GVW, now if I could just read. LOL!
I tow a 5th Wheel trailer with a tongue weight of 1700#. I had an 06 2500 Laramie that scaled 7600# with myself, my wife, and a tank of fuel. The 06 was about 300# over gross when going down the highway with the trailer. My new 3500 is an ST, which should be lighter than the Laramie, but the longer cab and box probably make up the difference plus some. So I would think this one weighs 7800# or so, which gives me a 600# cushion on my new truck. Much better for my piece of mind.
Anyway, for the OP, what is the pin weight on the new trailer? Do you have a reason for not going to a dually? I would probably bought one except that I need this truck for the woods too, so a dually is just too wide......
I tow a 5th Wheel trailer with a tongue weight of 1700#. I had an 06 2500 Laramie that scaled 7600# with myself, my wife, and a tank of fuel. The 06 was about 300# over gross when going down the highway with the trailer. My new 3500 is an ST, which should be lighter than the Laramie, but the longer cab and box probably make up the difference plus some. So I would think this one weighs 7800# or so, which gives me a 600# cushion on my new truck. Much better for my piece of mind.
Anyway, for the OP, what is the pin weight on the new trailer? Do you have a reason for not going to a dually? I would probably bought one except that I need this truck for the woods too, so a dually is just too wide......
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Payload on my 11 CCLB SRW is 2650 per dodge body builder website, the ST SRW is almost 2900....
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I do not see the problem with the payload..I own a 2001 5.9 24 V quad cab with a 373 rear end and a 2007 6.7L quad cab with a 410 rear end, I have a 32 Ft high fifth wheel and also a pull a 13' back hoe that weighs 13000lbs on a trailer that weighs 7200lbs both truck pull with no trouble, fuel milage sucks on the 07 when loaded but still pulls and never quits.
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While a ST would not weigh as much as a Lariat I would think there is not 550lbs difference. But when you add a 5ver hitch or possibly a B&W goose and companion then change out the factory rear hitch for something that can actually carry some weight, (more than 500lbs without a WD hitch) add a tool box and some tools, fill it up with fuel and add two people whats left for a "pin weight" is around 2100lbs max. While technically that's not THE "payload" it is a true useable load for hooking a 5ver to the truck. Mind you I didn't subtract for if the truck is deleted, that would get rid of all kinds of weight.
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While a ST would not weigh as much as a Lariat I would think there is not 550lbs difference. But when you add a 5ver hitch or possibly a B&W goose and companion then change out the factory rear hitch for something that can actually carry some weight, (more than 500lbs without a WD hitch) add a tool box and some tools, fill it up with fuel and add two people whats left for a "pin weight" is around 2100lbs max. While technically that's not THE "payload" it is a true useable load for hooking a 5ver to the truck. Mind you I didn't subtract for if the truck is deleted, that would get rid of all kinds of weight.
#13
You guys need to weigh your trucks loaded and ready to tow with a full tank of fuel. You will be surprised........like I stated, my 06 weighed 7600# ready to tow the trailer. If my ST weighs #7800, and I have not weighed it yet, I only have 2300# of payload.
You have to know what your truck actually weighs and not what the website says. If you are ever required to weigh, the guy at the scale house really doesn't care what the internet says.
You have to know what your truck actually weighs and not what the website says. If you are ever required to weigh, the guy at the scale house really doesn't care what the internet says.
#14
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lawyers and marketing come up with the payload numbers. Doubt the engineers are even consulted- even then they'd apply a 2x safety factor. As long as you aren't hauling commercial I doubt you'll ever get weighed.
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I have been looking at a Dodge 3500 srw to haul my truck camper but with such a low payload rating it is changing my mind.. I know the truck can handle the 3500 lb camper BUT it would be nice to do it legally.