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Old 11-09-2006, 09:31 AM
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It would be interesting to hear your report from them. My guess is they are going to say to use fuel additives such as howes and power service and other types. In my owners manual it says fuel additives are not needed for my truck (I dont think thats true). I dont think its a big debate. The guys that have been using 2 stroke will continue to use it and the guys that dont will just use fuel additives. Just a matter of personal choice
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I run FPPF for $9 treats 250 gallons and it adds more lubricity than P.S.






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Big Dave,

What does "FPPF" stand for and where do you buy it?

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BigDave,

Does in matter that one has a mix ratio of 1:1000 and the PS has a ratio of 1:500? Just curious.
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Here is a web page on additives that has some good information on it: http://www.truckinfo.net/trucking/ad...s-workpage.htm
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Ive been adding 2 stroke to my diesels for 12 years, works good.
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I buy it at Fleet Pride. They are heavy Duty truck part store. The are Nationwide so you may have one down the street and not know it. They hide in industrial parks since they are not really dealling with the people that shop at Autozone. I am not bashing people that shop at Autozone. I shop at Autozone. Buy they are not the ADAP's of yesterday. They are wall to wall car wax's and auto accesories. But hey more power to them. I buy my wipers and car cleaning products their and very happy with services. Until you ask them about a part and they have to know your engine size for the correct replacement headlight. You walk into fleetpride the shelves are cover with wheel chalks, grease guns and fuel addatives. Behind the counter is some homely looking dude with a dirty shirt on. WHo greets you with a "What ya need" With out even looking at book he goes out back and gets the part. And it is the right part. Unlike Autozone where you get "Does it look like this" Now I am sure in other parts of the country you still have the good old parts stores that have a brake lathe and great parts guys. But not here in Mass. We have huge chain stores. The little guys are getting harder and harder to find

http://www.fleetpride.com/fp_p/index.html
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Check out their website. They also have some cool videos about their product compared to others
http://www.fppf.com/
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two cycle engine oil eh?

well here it is straight from cummins. It is not a straight forward answer, but kind of confirms that it has been ok, but won't be from a legal standpoint soon, which is not the same as practical standpoint. Note they didn't say no no no, not with a common rail system. They said:

Summary: mixing oil in fuel

Solution:
We have not tested the addition of 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel. It will remain a
legal option to add oil to diesel fuel for use in on highway applications untill
January of 2007.

We, at one time, recommended the mixing of used engine oil with fuel in ratios
up to 5% (1 in 20) as a means to dispose of oused oil and derive the nearly
160,000 BTUs of energy brom each gallon of otherwise wasted fuel.

This was not intended to be a means of adding lubricity and will shortly no
longer be legal.

Fuel systems are designed to operate on D1 and D2 and,especially since the new
ULSD standard has been adopted with a lubricity requirement, do not need
additional lubricity.


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10W non detergent

I bought a 2 gal bottle of 10W nondetergent at TS. I will likely start replacing MMO with it. It should be safer than 2-stroke.

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Originally Posted by Peterbilt
I bought a 2 gal bottle of 10W nondetergent at TS. I will likely start replacing MMO with it. It should be safer than 2-stroke.

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How do you figger? If you're concerned about combustion zone cleanliness and deposits, you really should compare the sulfated ash levels of the oils. I'll guarantee you the ashless 2-cycle oil is lower - since it's formulated to be burned.

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I use 1/4 qt. of non/det 30 wt. every fill up. Along with PS. It's only $.79 qt. at Auto Zone
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Question Burn old oil as an option???

Originally Posted by way up north
well here it is straight from cummins. It is not a straight forward answer, but kind of confirms that it has been ok, but won't be from a legal standpoint soon, which is not the same as practical standpoint. Note they didn't say no no no, not with a common rail system. They said:

Summary: mixing oil in fuel

Solution:
We have not tested the addition of 2 cycle oil to diesel fuel. It will remain a
legal option to add oil to diesel fuel for use in on highway applications untill
January of 2007.

We, at one time, recommended the mixing of used engine oil with fuel in ratios
up to 5% (1 in 20) as a means to dispose of oused oil and derive the nearly
160,000 BTUs of energy brom each gallon of otherwise wasted fuel.

This was not intended to be a means of adding lubricity and will shortly no
longer be legal.

Fuel systems are designed to operate on D1 and D2 and,especially since the new
ULSD standard has been adopted with a lubricity requirement, do not need
additional lubricity.


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I'm going to change the oil on my truck this weekend... I wonder if I should save a couple gallons of the used oil and dump it in the tank when I fill up. Or did I misinterpret the above post? I would love to dispose of my old oil in my fuel tank.
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Originally Posted by stock03
I'm going to change the oil on my truck this weekend... I wonder if I should save a couple gallons of the used oil and dump it in the tank when I fill up. Or did I misinterpret the above post? I would love to dispose of my old oil in my fuel tank.
I think you got the right interpretation of it. I'm tempted to do it not because I need to for the truck or to get rid of the oil but because it will be illeagle soon and I stick it to the man every chance I get. They kind of have my ticked off every time they change something to make it "better" it seems to cost me more money.
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Well, these engines are (from what I've heard) pretty darn stout. I'm going for it! I'm going to add some used Rotella oil to my fuel tank after my oil change. I wonder if it will smoke more? That will be ok with me.


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