sabercat

1st of all can you run just the programmer only, with no deletes, I'm assuming you can. My question is do you get the benifits, more power, more mpg, more HP, that they all seem to claim? Also if you run just the programmer, and you have issue under warranty, can you go back to stock and have it fixed at the dealer with out a footprint of ever having a programmer installed.

mega-engr

You can run the Smarty 67 with the ME or without. Meaning you can run the program with or without the deletes but need the right downloaded program for what you want (free download).

I don't think any of the programmers are undetectable and will leave some kind of footprint depending on how hard one looks.

I am very happy with the gains in power and economy.

Blake Clark

Like stated above, you can, but the delete offer better gains all around for power, MPG's, and longevity.

No setup is undetectable, even the add on ECM systems like Edge. If they want to find it, they can dig until they do.

sabercat

whats the dodge got 100000 mile warranty?

Blake Clark

No, the Dodge does not.

But the Cummins does.

sabercat

I'll probably wait till the warrantys out, to do the programmer delete stuff. May be a long wait, only have 22000 on it.

got_soot

I said the same thing when the smarty ME software was just coming out, im just gonna wait for the warranty to end and look at me now.There is nothing better. I bet $100 your gonna have a programmer on it by july 4, i just know how things are.

Blake Clark

If he was round here Id let him drive mine.

Then he'd have a Smarty on overnight delivery....

2171CTD

I said the same thing, then at 20,000 miles my truck got an emissions-ectomy

mega-engr

At only 7K miles on my 2007, it would take forever for my warantee to be gone and I could not wait nearly that long to get my truck to clean up its act.

got_soot

holy crap, you still have a brand new rig.

mega-engr

Yes, it pretty much is. It is my tow truck and all purpose fun machine. Warantee will be gone and it still won't be broke in yet. Otherwise I just abuse the 96 Camry on a daily basis .

sabercat

Like me, I have a older prius to do the gocery getting.

So you guys with the deletes, what do you do when you get a flash update from dodge, hook everything back up, or ignore the notice?
On a full delete, do you do just the egr, or the cooler part also, and whats the differance.
some one said 1400 for the deletes, or around that, the pipe and egr stuff is pretty cheap, so its the controllor that cost the most?
Thanks

d_kuda

Mine only has 18k on it, and I just recently did the deletes. wish i would have done it at 1800 instead. i'm very happy now

hwebb

i just ignore the flash notices cause they're for the emissions anyway and you will just undo it when you plug the programmer back in is what i understand of it so far