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TST VS. Smarty!!

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Old 03-23-2008, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tritont
I don't think the TST will fuel that far. If you get to the point that you have the mods to run the REVO/R.... I don't think you'll even want the TST on there too. I think the TST level of tuning is where Marco is going with the REVO tunes.

The are two different beasts. As you may know the Smarty is a downloader that sets difference ECM parameters where the TST is a inline signal manipulator. IMO...You won't want to add timing, pressure and power from both boxes, that may be a little excessive in each department.

I would say though... if you are going to run them both keep your eye on things !!! You'll really need to work on tuning to get it right.
Thats what i was thinkin but had to ask just seen a few fellas that had the TNT/R and still had the TST in there, not sure what settings the TST was on though.
Since my Smarty isnt adding any pressure and if i run even #'s i should be able to add pressure and timing with the TST right? That might be a stupid question but better safe that sorry u know.
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Originally Posted by Bswope
Thats what i was thinkin but had to ask just seen a few fellas that had the TNT/R and still had the TST in there, not sure what settings the TST was on though.
Since my Smarty isnt adding any pressure and if i run even #'s i should be able to add pressure and timing with the TST right? That might be a stupid question but better safe that sorry u know.
No, it's a legitimate question. That's where the two boxes stack well. Yes, using the non timing setting would allow you to add and adjust everything else on the TST.

But, as i said... if you get to the point you can run TNT or REVO/R that allows you to adjusted all those same parameters... watch how you set things !

The TST fuels really hard too and even with your Airdog you could run the rail dry. Your single CP3 won't be able to keep up.
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Bswope, have you checked to make sure your '06 has a pre-June 2006 build date?
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the tst is very powerful in its own way. like stated before the tst and the smarty work good together from what ive seen. the tst stacked with something else is a very powerful combo. in my opinion the tst is one of the most powerful boxes there is
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Originally Posted by jrussell
Bswope, have you checked to make sure your '06 has a pre-June 2006 build date?
Yep, the build date on my truck is 3/06 and i havent had one bit of trouble with the TST.
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Originally Posted by Bswope
Yep, the build date on my truck is 3/06 and i havent had one bit of trouble with the TST.
Good deal. I wish I could run one. Have fun with it!
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same here mine was built in 06/2006. I ran one for a while but decided to just run injectors because of all the risk with my build date. I really wish they would figure out the issues with the tst I would really like to run one again someday
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Man i hope they get it figured out for u fellas cause i love mine!
I do have a bit of timimg rattle like if i have it set at 12* in auto mode and ease into the trottle and then if i ease back out of it.
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The TST is a great performance box, and I would stack one with my Smarty if I could (they don't make one for the 06-07), but this combination can, will, and does destroy engines.....So be careful how you set it.

Check it out.

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...ad.php?t=25398
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I saw that video and it makes me worried since I'm supposed to dyno next month. My TST is OLD SCHOOL it's serial # is like 1300 so I don't have the rail pressure or the adjustable timing so I guess I'm going to be sure to only use the non timing Smarty programs. With twin CP3's, twin turbos and stacked boxes the only time I want to see any of my connecting rods is when I choose to.
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