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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Had TST install Twins, turbo cool down timer, and anti-defuel.

Have some issues with wide-open throttle, the EGT's go up fast.

De-fuel set at 1350 and it gets there quick. I am running a stock turbo for now. Have turbo boost max at 40 psi. I am afraid to go any higher. That was on 5-5 and 4-4. Is this program too hot or do I need to go back to the stock program?

I also have BDDL. I have not stacked it yet. Just wonder if this would help with the EGT's.

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 06:29 PM
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I to have the TST and it is a extreme program. But that is a good thing as far as I am concerned. to use full power you need a pusher pump aftermarket clutch And twin turbos are the only way to hold down the exhaust temp for the 9/9 settings. I run mine at 3/3 pulling 38000 and on averge hills my exhaust will hit 1325 by the top but im still going 75!!!! The TST gives you settings you can build your self into, which I thick is cool. I dont't understand why people stack the TST. maby some one can explain. IF you purchesed a banks or edge you would have to stack just to match the TST
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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I do have a FASS pump. TST installed it for me. I have a 2005, automatic, loaded up, 410 gears, and running on 35s. I used to run the standard and did not have any problems with temperature that I knew of. I was using just the outlook monitor. I upgraded to TST digital monitor. I thought that it was a wise decision. I also upgraded to the Twins at the same time. Everything is done on the truck except for the Twin turbos. I was looking at the Artic Twins, but for right now money says stock turbo will do. I just need to know what base settings I should run for now.

The BDDL does help with spool up on bottom end, faster. It seems to also help with EGT's. It just makes the TST a little stronger on bottom end. I do agree the TST is the way to go.

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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With my early twins program stacked with the MP-8, I get to the limit FAST!

I ran today on 5x4 with the Ramifier on 30%. Ran good, but hit 1400 deg. defueling in 5th gear (after rolling on in 4th) and again in 6th.

I have also run with the BDDL quite a bit. Very smoky, but good power. Temps seem to climb just as fast...

And I have a SPS 66. I may need some spray.

It seems you need to leave the TE number on a low setting to keep the temps down. You can definitely turn up the HP number, though.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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With the stock turbo I think you are going to have to stay at pretty low settings. When I stack the Triple Dog with the TST, I get more power down low on Performance program, but I also get higher EGTs quicker. You need the twins to play it looks like.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:54 PM
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Thanks i well try the lower TE settings.And turn up the HP settings.Spray sounds good too!
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Uh, call me silly here, but maybe there is a reason it is called the "twins" program! I think that reason is because you need TWINS to keep it cool!


I'm not trying to be mean here, but c'mon, you set yourself up for that one. Did you maybe tell Mark and Scott that you were ultimately going to put a set of twins on your truck? If you told them you were going to stay with the stock charger I'm fairly certain they wouldn't have given you the "twins" program.
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Tushay You got me on that one. But thats what DIESEL buddies are for right? Itold iwas getting them soon.But like i said money is tight
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 09:44 PM
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Ramble Bee, Classic case of Champagne tastes and a beer budget. I can't wait till you go for warranty service next week on the blown turbo. You should not run past 34 psi on the turbo firstly. The TST has two buttons on for torque and one for hp for a purpose. I don't know what a loaded up tranny is please explain but I assume you don't have a built tranny either but you could fill out your signature so we could rag you more for trying to put TST 5/5 twins through a fairly stock tranny. Turn down the torque, develop a plan to mod your truck that meets your budget. Otherwise you are an explosion of parts waiting to happen. ks
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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I dont run the SINGLES tst over 3/2. Even then I roll into the throttle gently,

gotta keep that little hy for the Arctic Air twins
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 10:59 PM
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Temps

I have the TST(non twins) with a HTB2 turbo with the 12cm housing. It spools like stock, but with the TST any higher than level 4 the egts go out of control. I have just replaced my cat and ordered a new cool twist intercooler hoping to put a dent in those high temps. We will see.
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Old Feb 25, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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RAMBLE-BEE hear again. You guys are right,I'm putting the cart in front of the horse again. I just want to be like you big dogs on the block. My truck is coming together slowly, but I'm getting there. As I said before, I get on here reading about you guys and man its like putting candy in front of a baby!I do like it when you guys read and reply. It makes a person feel good. KINDA LIKE FAMLY My truck is a 05 DODGE 2500 YELLOW quadcab auto, mild built, 410 gears, 2 inch leveling kit with 35 procomp, a 4 inch free flow exhaust, and a big honk'n air filter with outerwear going back to standerd TST . I do have a BDDL and outlook monitor. I have a boost elbow too from TST, as well as a TST monitor and a FASS pump. Everything done to this truck has been done by TST. Like I said before, twinturbos are on hold for right now YOU guys keep pointing me in the right direction. THANKS YOUR DIESEL BUDDY

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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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Now put all of that into your sig so people won't have to ask again. I cant imagine running the twins flash on a stock turbo and tranny. I would suggest waiting until you have a bigger turbo(s) and a modified tranny before stuff explodes.

Post some pics in your gallery too.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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I would keep the twins setting but use it wisely, like 1/1, until everything else is built up. The single program is kind of dead until the boost is up, then hang on.
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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1/1 is still timing only go low on TE and higher on Power. I wouldn't go above 3 or 4 or if you do set the max boost at 32 because it will probably overshoot. Play with it a bit to see what each level feels like. I spend 99% of my empty time in 1/# for mileage. Don't do boosted launches and enjoy the truck. Once the block is up to temp and all fluids and pressures are stabilized I find I can run higher levels and EGT's don't go crazy. Does the outlook have a trans temp gauge setting on it? Check your tranny fluid often and dump the pan, change the filter, and flush fill the system on or ahead of schedule. Best first tranny Mod is a DD tranny pan (Do it on your first scheduled fluid change) and a valve body kit that gives flow while idling. You can also get a billet cover single disc TC pretty cheap if you shop around. Check your flexplate for heat stress on the studs around the welds. Any stress get a billet or laminated immediately. If you have any t/c or flexplate problems check the pump for play....any play...replace it or the tranny won't last 100miles. ks
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