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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:08 PM
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Looking for 600hp

That's my goal, no higher. After doing a lot of searching, I have come up with a list of necessary mods. Here's the list:
AD 150
twins - stocker/S400
Smarty SR TNT
MP8
Arson II or III CP3
50-90hp injectors
coolant bypass
studs & springs
built tranny to put it all to the ground
I miss anything?
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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That looks pretty good. I think that you could go with some bigger sticks if you wanted. I'm putting down 636 with my setup, and I was not running the TNT tune... probably could have hit 650. I think that you could possibly be over 600 with that setup.

Do you have gauges? I don't see them in your sig or your list...

If you're gonna go to the track, I'd throw in some ladder bars, too, since you're spending the $$$..

That's a bundle of money, too!
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 07:59 PM
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yeah, thats over kill for 600 i just laid down thos morning 522 hp and 1085 on a stock turbo, stock sticks, and stock cp3. Your lookin at 650-maybe 700 with that set up
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 08:31 AM
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I may not do the CP3 and the MP8 right away. It depends on where the stocker and Smarty gets me. And I wasn't gonna do injectors either. But I figured I might as well go ahead and do them while the cover was off for the studs/springs. Got to pull the sticks anyway. If it ends up being over 600 that's fine. I would rather the mods make 600 with ease than be maxed out at 600.
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Old Apr 19, 2009 | 11:06 AM
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I don't think the stocker/400 twins will get you to 700, like was mentioned, well at least not without piston melting temps. but with that setup 600 should be a very real number
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by twoforme2
I don't think the stocker/400 twins will get you to 700, like was mentioned, well at least not without piston melting temps. but with that setup 600 should be a very real number
What do you think would be the limiting factor in the stocker over S400 twin setup? The stocker's wastegate can be opened up with a die grinder or dremel tool.

FYI there are stocker over S480 setups out there that make big power. Usually an external gate is needed to take full advantage of the 480 but..... 700 is very realistic for Stocker/S400 twins.
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 10:29 AM
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My buddy hit 602 with a super b special, smarty tnt-r, arson kit, ddp 50s, intake, exhaust, bladerunner, and gridheater delete on an early 04
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by one54ton
My buddy hit 602 with a super b special, smarty tnt-r, arson kit, ddp 50s, intake, exhaust, bladerunner, and gridheater delete on an early 04
I beleive it... you don't need a huge s400 to put you in the 600 range, something like the special would do that.....
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:02 PM
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I would say get the pump redone the arson kit wont keep up and maybe a little bigger injectors, but you are on the right track
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 10:20 AM
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I would say get the pump redone the arson kit wont keep up and maybe a little bigger injectors, but you are on the right track
Well if the arson kits won't keep up, then what do you suggest? I'm really not trying to go the twin cp3 route. Don't plan on making huge power. The truck is just going to be a street truck that may see the track once in a blue moon but a visit there is a fluke at best. I realize a big single turbo would do the job but I want a quick spool with street manners. Plus I have a boat (-10k lbs.)that will be towed around town once in a while during the warm seasons. I feel the twins will be better suited for the task when needed.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 10:49 AM
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Ok garrett stg3 with .99 exhaust housing (often called the stg2 mod), raptor pump, 50hp stixs, bladerunner, meth, and crazy larry dynoed 626hp this last weekend in ft collins colorado.

I think 600 is fairly attainable with a turbo, pump, stixs and programming. The numbers above were done with STOCK CP3. and rail pressure maintained 23psi 24psi while spraying the meth....the whole time.

FYI egts never got over 1400 with meth and 1450 without. These runs were done on an 06 dodge
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WYODSL
Ok garrett stg3 with .99 exhaust housing (often called the stg2 mod), raptor pump, 50hp stixs, bladerunner, meth, and crazy larry dynoed 626hp this last weekend in ft collins colorado.

I think 600 is fairly attainable with a turbo, pump, stixs and programming. The numbers above were done with STOCK CP3. and rail pressure maintained 23psi 24psi while spraying the meth....the whole time.

FYI egts never got over 1400 with meth and 1450 without. These runs were done on an 06 dodge
After all the researching and reading I've done, it appears that the stock cp3, on 04.5 - 07 trucks at least, can support 600 hp with other appropriate mods or come pretty **** close. That's why I figured a modded cp3 would do the trick for me.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by BOB DIEZEL
After all the researching and reading I've done, it appears that the stock cp3, on 04.5 - 07 trucks at least, can support 600 hp with other appropriate mods or come pretty **** close. That's why I figured a modded cp3 would do the trick for me.
I agree 100%.
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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JWB,

Why do you think the Arson kits won't keep up? I've been researching them because the gains seem terrific for the amount of money they cost? Just curious, I know very little since I've just started looking into pump mods. Do "stock" pumps with a "bag of parts" perform well? I know very few pumps are suitable for the high performance upgrades when you send them in, so how does that come into play when doing garage mods to them?

Shawn
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