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II "Bag of Parts" vs. Arson 2 kit

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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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II "Bag of Parts" vs. Arson 2 kit

what stage 1 cp3 mod is better the II kit is 350.00 and the Arson kit is 399.00 but besides the money what one would handle better power or are they both pretty much the same, any first hand experience. and how easy/hard are they really to install. any other input is good to.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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in my opinion they are both a waste of money.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 10:39 PM
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Installation was pretty easy. The outlet port has a little ball in there that can be tricky but not bad just use a dab of grease to keep it from rolling out. I can not imagine much difference between the to kits. The II is keeping up with the 1.8s that I have. I ran the 4.2 with them and it had pleanty of fuel.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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in my opinion they are both a waste of money.
Have you ever ran either one?
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Installation was pretty easy. The outlet port has a little ball in there that can be tricky but not bad just use a dab of grease to keep it from rolling out. I can not imagine much difference between the to kits. The II is keeping up with the 1.8s that I have. I ran the 4.2 with them and it had pleanty of fuel.
awesome!! What was your rp at?
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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no but know people who have and not going to pay 350 to 400 bucks for something you can do your self in a couple hours.
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:00 PM
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no but know people who have and not going to pay 350 to 400 bucks for something you can do your self in a couple hours.
The arson kit is more then a lil bit of work.. It comes with a new machined parts.. Not just the fca and stuff.. Plus ya send your whole pump in for about another 400 bucks ya can have it upgraded to a stage 2 so ya figure 800 bucks and you got a stage 2 pump
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Old Jun 15, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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ok have a nice day...
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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anyone else have any good to say about either one??
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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ive had the arson kit for about 8 mos and its been fine,keeps up with my stuff,will be going twins soon and i think it will be fine
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 08:59 PM
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no but know people who have and not going to pay 350 to 400 bucks for something you can do your self in a couple hours.
True, but if you screw up, then you go looking for replacement parts, then you have to mod them too. If you can even get a replacement FCA, last I heard they were on backorder. The FCA is a bit tricky, cut it wrong and you will have a bucking bronco under light throttle, don't get it clean and debris will mess up the pump. Leave a burr and it sticks in the bore, we are talking very small pieces here. The gear pump in no huge ordeal, but the high pressure fitting, noone mods them. A correctly prepared high pressure fitting is worth an extra 2,000 psi. The DIY mod, never even addressed that. Also the torx bit to remove the FCA end cap, has to be the the most uncivilized method, I have ever seen. Better make sure you set the end cap back to the exact depth required too. Some are capable of doing the mod themselves, some are lucky, and some end up having to buy a new CP3. Just like a trip to Vegas, roll the dice....or go with exceedingly proven results. Its your money, spend wisely.
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Old Jun 16, 2008 | 10:29 PM
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I think the arson kit it a good thing to spend money on! Def can't hurt ya!! And you can only upgrade from there!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:15 AM
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True, but if you screw up, then you go looking for replacement parts, then you have to mod them too. If you can even get a replacement FCA, last I heard they were on backorder. The FCA is a bit tricky, cut it wrong and you will have a bucking bronco under light throttle, don't get it clean and debris will mess up the pump. Leave a burr and it sticks in the bore, we are talking very small pieces here. The gear pump in no huge ordeal, but the high pressure fitting, noone mods them. A correctly prepared high pressure fitting is worth an extra 2,000 psi. The DIY mod, never even addressed that. Also the torx bit to remove the FCA end cap, has to be the the most uncivilized method, I have ever seen. Better make sure you set the end cap back to the exact depth required too. Some are capable of doing the mod themselves, some are lucky, and some end up having to buy a new CP3. Just like a trip to Vegas, roll the dice....or go with exceedingly proven results. Its your money, spend wisely.
The dreaded DIY didnt serve me so well. Truck ran fine but just not better. Also suspected lost mileage but never checked it. I assume properly machined parts that have been tested and proven is worth the coin if ya got it. Good luck fellas.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by WICKEDDIESELS
True, but if you screw up, then you go looking for replacement parts, then you have to mod them too. If you can even get a replacement FCA, last I heard they were on backorder. The FCA is a bit tricky, cut it wrong and you will have a bucking bronco under light throttle, don't get it clean and debris will mess up the pump. Leave a burr and it sticks in the bore, we are talking very small pieces here. The gear pump in no huge ordeal, but the high pressure fitting, noone mods them. A correctly prepared high pressure fitting is worth an extra 2,000 psi. The DIY mod, never even addressed that. Also the torx bit to remove the FCA end cap, has to be the the most uncivilized method, I have ever seen. Better make sure you set the end cap back to the exact depth required too. Some are capable of doing the mod themselves, some are lucky, and some end up having to buy a new CP3. Just like a trip to Vegas, roll the dice....or go with exceedingly proven results. Its your money, spend wisely.
thats what i was afraid of i know i can probly do the DIY but i dont wanna be bothered with the chance of screwing anything up to save a few hundred bucks sometime you just cant be a penney pincher.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 08:17 AM
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thats what i was afraid of i know i can probly do the DIY but i dont wanna be bothered with the chance of screwing anything up to save a few hundred bucks sometime you just cant be a penney pincher.
the exact reason i bought an arson kit,worked out for me
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