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II "Bag of Parts" vs. Arson 2 kit

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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:23 PM
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The proof is in the pudding so to speak and no one has shown the pudding!

I want to see real results not feels like or by the sotp dyno runs.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 01:24 PM
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How would you not feel it even on a more modded truck? Say if your running turbo/smarty/ intake and exahust and a ad150 and say your rp is dropping off.. Well you put the arson kit on and it maintains a higher rp of course your going to feel a difference!!
Well yeah if your draining the rail your going to feel it

I just want to see the facts behind the claims
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 04:49 PM
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Where can I get one of these arson kits?? It might give me a good reason to go play on the dyno again!!!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 04:54 PM
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FCA mods can only really affect the rate of pressure increase not the max volume of the pump. The seat of pants feeling is the increased power SOONER...not max.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TJBUGGIE
Where can I get one of these arson kits?? It might give me a good reason to go play on the dyno again!!!
http://www.wickeddiesels.com/index.html
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RunninLean
sorry if my font size bothers you hope this is better!
Just screwin with ya! You had so many posts on one page it was like BAM!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 08:05 PM
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Thanks for the link WD he had some good results!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 08:15 PM
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Sorry we had to go somewhere else for me to give them to you. We are not yet a site sponsor here, that will be changing in a few days, once Larry and I have time to talk a bit. Thanks, I thought you were very sceptical, but that is alright!
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:01 PM
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Hey Wicked.. Send me a link to please!! I already have a kit. Just curious seeing the link tho
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Wicked, i like the information your website provides. I don't like the font, it is a little difficult to read and kind of cheesy. I know you have that wicked theme and all, just giving my opinion.

Another thing that bothered me, when you click on the individual pumps their claimed HP does not add up to the same 3hp per LPH of pump flow. Your stage two claims 750HP, but then claims only 228 LPH which equals 684 HP. I know these are just approximations and I fully believe that some make more, and some make less depending on a myriad of variables. Just that, if I were you, I would make the numbers match up fairly consistent throughout the website so as to build more credibility and trust with would be buyers.

I don't own a common rail but will someday and with all the 6 month lead time crap I hear about the other pump vendor, I would never do business with him. I would love to see you become an advertising vendor and give us diesel heads more options for pump upgrades than 6-10 months.

I did find your site very informative, and I would give it a B- grade.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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More Arson Pleezz!!! sorry buddy there right it was just too much. The big letters are for screams like when my at the time 3yr old had the lid come down on him. It looked really painfull.
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Old Jun 17, 2008 | 11:38 PM
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Come on guys, tell me how you really feel! I do all the site work myself, so a B-, with my fat fingers is quite the compliment. I understand what you are saying on the relation of LPH versus HP, it is actually a little over 3HP/LPH. I only put it there for approximation purposes. If you give exact numbers, people expect exact results. Sorry that does not always happen. I think the fonts are displayed differently on some systems, making them difficult to read. As for big letters, Trisan are we talking about caps, or just the size? I make the templates on another program, it doesen't give enough options for size variances. Thanks for the input, when or if I get time, I will incorporate your objections and ideas.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 12:47 AM
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You probably missed it. One member had his sig in gigantic letters that basically would take up a page. Since then he has changed it so it changes the sig in all previous posts. Sorry that was off topic. But I commented as it was a little irritating.

I think it said "MORE CUMMINZ PLEEZE" or something to that effect. No big deal its gone now.

If your asking what grade you get. I havnt studied your homework well enough to give a grade but Personally if I couldnt afford the stage 2 I would certainly go with the arson kit. But then again I gotta screw it up to prove I cant do it and I did. Had John fix tha problem.

From what ive gathered WICKEDDIESEL you are well received in the CP3 community and others that have first hand experience have all spoke well about your products. Id guess on that fact alone your in the "B" class atleast.
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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what actually goes into modding a cp3?
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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Good luck gettin an answer on that one. Top secret info. Nobody wants to share. I know when it all began FloorIt used to build pumps for several of the top companys to "rebadge". There are only a select few who know how to do it through research and John and WICKEDDIESEL are some of the only guys, as I hear it, that didnt "reverse engineer" sombody elses product and figured it out for themselves.

Aside from sending it off to a proffesional, What most people that need a little boost in rail preassure do is get online and look up the write up that Relentless Diesel put out a year or 2 ago about how to mod a few parts yourself. But its tricky and not for everybody. Its like doin surgery on pencil eraser to mod the fca plunger and your usin a grinder. Then sand it with like 2000 grit sandpaper.

Or the alternative is to buy already modded parts and slap then on for a desent gain like the ones that Wicked sells. As a side note the FCA alone is like $125 if you screw it up and they are on backorder alot. Not sure if that was something to do with everyone in the country doin the DIY and screwin them up or just becouse these trucks are so tempramental on the FCA. Some trucks act different with different ones on the same truck.

Not sure if you already knew all that but there it is....
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