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CO2 Injection

Old Oct 27, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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CO2 Injection

The 2nd gen guy who's refrigerating his intake charge gave me an idea...

How about injecting dry ice into the intake; it would seriously cool the intake charge, and the oxygen would disassociate from the carbon at about 650*F to clean up all that smoke... of course the free carbon would mix with the Hydro from the water/meth nozzle(s) and form more HydroCarbon to be ignited in the cylinder.

Might even be better than nitrous!
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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oh, hear we go again.....haha, i have seen ricer cars and muscle cars shoot liquid CO2 through there radiator and intercooler, to cool the intake charge that way.
will the 20-40 psi in the intake charge affect disassociation in anyway? what kind of apparatus were you looking at for injecting the dry ice?
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Old Oct 27, 2006 | 10:40 PM
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When I used to race gasers I would use a ice can, where I would put dry ice in a can and the fuel would sprial through it. Seemed to work ok,, maybe a tenth or so

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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:03 AM
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But if you injected it right into the intake, then it could disassociate the oxygen from the carbon, so the mixture could form HydroCarbons - which is well known to be a Fuel.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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I could be wrong but don't many fire extinguishers use CO2 to put out fires? If it can put out fires wouldn't it be counter productive to put it into the engines combustion chamber? Wouldn't this negatively affect the fire that makes the engine actually work?

I can see using it to cool intercoolers and fuel lines but I am having a hard time seeing how you will get it to combust?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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CO2 is used to extinguish fires (by suffocating the burning process) at ambient pressure and temperature - quite different from the compression-ignition combustion chamber environment...
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Fair enough...would it work? Could be a cheap way to make power if it does... I can see it now under mods signature, "Custom fire extinguisher mounted under hood mod" Just kidding, keep us posted of new info....
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 01:53 PM
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xlr8r, you are the most amazing person, I would just love to know how your mind works, coming up with these ideas. I think it is great, maybe some work, maybe some dont, but I think it is awesome at least someone is coming up with different ideas. What do you do for work if I may ask

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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
CO2 is used to extinguish fires (by suffocating the burning process) at ambient pressure and temperature - quite different from the compression-ignition combustion chamber environment...

my experience is that co2 extinguishes a fire by lowering the temp of the material burning, not suffocating it. dry chem inhibits the chemical chain reaction too. just my .02

brett

interesting idea btw
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by morkable
xlr8r, you are the most amazing person, I would just love to know how your mind works, coming up with these ideas. I think it is great, maybe some work, maybe some dont, but I think it is awesome at least someone is coming up with different ideas. What do you do for work if I may ask

Kevin
Well. the classification is a bit over your pay grade, but I do enjoy working on some of DARPA's projects....

We're in the front-line trenches of the Techno-War
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8R
Well. the classification is a bit over your pay grade, but I do enjoy working on some of DARPA's projects....

We're in the front-line trenches of the Techno-War
lol,, shoulda known,,,, lmao

Kevin
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