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03 04 Smarty or Diablo Stack? What is everyone using?

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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Cool 03 04 Smarty or Diablo Stack? What is everyone using?

Like it says what do you 03 04 guys like to run?
Smarty stacked with Quad race or regular?
Diablo stacked with power puck?
I have the regular Quad now but am looking for more. I hear a lot about both but it's still kinda hard to make a decision.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Smarty/Quad race has me in the 460/900 range, pretty fun too.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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With just the Diablo Predator on extreme and Edge on Lev.0 I layed down 477hp/1056tq a few weeks ago.
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Predator/Puck. Im well over 600 with mine.......mid 5's with others
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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My Smarty MP8 stack is in the mid 400's with a slipping stock clutch.

I wonder what kind of #'s I could lay down with a strong clutch.

I'm not going to buy a TST or any other electronic mod until I see what the new tuneable VA will do for us that have 03-04.

I hope and pray that us 03-04 guys will finally have the electronic advantage that the 04.5+ guys have had for the past 3 years.

I'm tired of getting the short end of the stick when it comes to HP #'s even after I've changed out all the so called parts that give out 03-04's weaker #'s.

All things should be equal given you have the same turbos, injectors, but they never seem to be. Hopefully this will change
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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smarty/quad race stack=505/1021 running out of rail pressure.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 12:12 AM
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Well I found a ton of info and I think I'm going to try the diablo stack, I know with my Quad I could go Smarty but I'm still not sure as the Quad does all 3 timing,duration,pressure, and the Smarty does this as well except timing on certain levels, so I'm just talking myself into something new and want to SMASH those D-maxes, Fords well they just can't seem to get off the hook.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by hilclmr2
Well I found a ton of info and I think I'm going to try the diablo stack, I know with my Quad I could go Smarty but I'm still not sure as the Quad does all 3 timing,duration,pressure, and the Smarty does this as well except timing on certain levels, so I'm just talking myself into something new and want to SMASH those D-maxes, Fords well they just can't seem to get off the hook.
The Quad does very little duration, mostly pressure/timing, you dont want to add any more pressure, only duration and maybe a LITTLE timing. If I were you, I'd buy a Smarty or try the infamous Diablo stack. The only thing in the back of my mind is how much customer support are you going to get from Diablo? I had a bad experience w/ them, therefore I would not buy their product. You will be amazed at how much support you will get from Quad and the Smarty folks (Bob & Marco).
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:58 AM
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keep in mind the supporting mods these guys in this thread with big numbers have... They have turbos, and fully built transmissions. You will need a built trans if you stack that much power.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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You guy's running the Smarty stack ,what levels are you using? On the programmer and the box?
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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in the winter 5 or less(timing rattle when cold) and 8 when its above 50*. quad usually on 0, but quickly turned up when someone needs a blast
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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The Quad does very little duration, mostly pressure/timing, you dont want to add any more pressure, only duration and maybe a LITTLE timing. If I were you, I'd buy a Smarty or try the infamous Diablo stack. The only thing in the back of my mind is how much customer support are you going to get from Diablo? I had a bad experience w/ them, therefore I would not buy their product. You will be amazed at how much support you will get from Quad and the Smarty folks (Bob & Marco).
I wholeheartedly agree that Quad has some of the best customer support you can find in any industry. I've also had nothing but absolute support from Diablo. I have email with them, talked on the phone with them, and had forum support with them. And by "them" I mean the guys who actually programmed the Diablo for our trucks. And they have given me more powerful tunes to play with. Custom made some tunes that I specifically asked for, such as no pressure, etc. And they have done these things within a 24hr period. Diablo's products and support have truly amazed me.
The Quad/Diablo stack I run is very powerful, to me anyway. I won't have any numbers for a few weeks to verify.
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