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Old 02-23-2007, 08:27 AM
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Well I guess I'm different. I love my cummins to death, however, for non-bombing, general use, all 3 are decent engines. I have driven all 3 and unless your getting stupid with them all pull pretty well. Granted for durability and bottom end strength, you cant beat the cummins, its tried and proven reliability (and cheaper too!) Personally, I would like to see what Toyota could come up with. Hey what would a little more challange posted hurt? I know that the smaller Toyotas are danged reliable and can take one heck of a beating. After doing some research and seeing thier commercials, if I was going to buy a half ton, I WOULD consider a new Tundra. I mean come on, 401ft lbs of torque and a 6 spd auto! They are ahead of the big 3 in this department. Not to mention thier warranty is better than the big 3 too! Im not gonna say that if Toyota came out with a 3/4 ton that im gonna run right out and trade in my cummins, but it would be interesting to see what they could add to the competition.
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Toyota advertises the most torque, Dodge should tell them you can get 525 lb-ft of torque their 1/2 ton.
Old 02-23-2007, 01:39 PM
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Toyota has 401 but look at the RPM's you have to turn to get it.

401 at 3600rpm's

381hp at 5600rpm's

EDIT: Nevermind, I jumped the gun and thought you were comparing Gas to Diesel. DURRRR!
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Originally Posted by 3500lly
I know there is a lot of ford bashing around this site, but I hope the 6.4 turns out better than the 6.0 otherwise I think they will be quickly working themselves out of this market and frankly I don't want the big 3 to someday be dodge, chevy and toyota.

I dont know, Im kind of excited to see what Toyota comes out with. Personally, Im not a big fan of Japanese vehicles, but one has to admit, Toyota is coming up...and quickly. Unlike Ford, Toyota has an excellent reputation when it comes to standing behind their vehicles and customer service. Just my 0.02

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Old 02-23-2007, 03:42 PM
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I stopped and looked at a Tundra last weekend. Sorry, but for the price I can get a nice 3/4 ton Dodge with a Cummins, plus they look awful tacky in my opinion.

Theres my .02
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Well, I spent two hours test driving the new Ford yesterday and can attest that whether the turbos are parallel or sequential....they still suck. You put your foot down and wait...and wait....and bang the power hits in time for the spongy horrible upshift. Seriously, it was so bad we pulled out the stop watch - 3.5 seconds between hitting the throttle and the beginning of the power surge. Horrible. edited by admin near totalled it pulling out in traffic.

Loved the truck, interior, exterior, ride, roominess....HATE the engine. Godawfulfreakinterrible. Shame, because other than that it is a nice truck.

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Old 02-24-2007, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by c5racer
Toyota advertises the most torque, Dodge should tell them you can get 525 lb-ft of torque their 1/2 ton.
What Dodge half-ton has 525 ft-lbs of torque???
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What Dodge half-ton has 525 ft-lbs of torque???
I think the srt-10
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Wasn't the 6.0 supposed to be the next great thing? What is the track record of the 6.0?
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Originally Posted by w.tx iceman
I think the srt-10
Gotcha...almost forgot that one.
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IMO, Ford builds the nicest trucks of the big three. However, if you have to have one get the V-10!! You'll thank me later.
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Originally Posted by deere nut
IMO, Ford builds the nicest trucks of the big three. However, if you have to have one get the V-10!! You'll thank me later.
Did they fix the heads yet so they stop blowing spark plugs out?
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Originally Posted by deere nut
IMO, Ford builds the nicest trucks of the big three. However, if you have to have one get the V-10!! You'll thank me later.
Their choice for a diesel engine is garbage.
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Originally Posted by 3500lly
I know there is a lot of ford bashing around this site, but I hope the 6.4 turns out better than the 6.0 otherwise I think they will be quickly working themselves out of this market and frankly I don't want the big 3 to someday be dodge, chevy and toyota.
My patriotic side agrees with you, but then again, a large part of our Dodges are Mexican, Canadian and German, so, in that light, as long as there ARE three, I'll be happy. Two companies (or political parties) aren't enough to provide enough competition to keep things from being a mundane quagmire of the status-quo.

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More of the toyotas are made in the US than the other 3....our trucks included. ks


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