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Old 09-07-2009, 05:12 PM
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'08 or '09 (or '10)

So if you had to choose between the '08 and the '09, are there any factors to sway the decision one way or the other (aside from the locked ECM on the '09s)?

Pros or cons one way or the other? Been looking around lately and found a few '08s floating around used that may be better deals than what can be squeezed out of the dealer for an '09 on the lot.
Old 09-07-2009, 06:49 PM
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I'd probably go with '10 since the 6.7 has been out for a few years and more of the bugs have been worked out. But dont take my advice just yet lol...listen to the expertise the other guys give.
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Same as above, but think Ill stick with my 06, the longer the model is out the more they refine all the problems.
Old 09-07-2009, 07:28 PM
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'10's are nice but the locked ECM is a deal breaker for me. Id look for an 09 (pre-march) at a good deal due to the new models coming out.

If leaving bone stock, then no reason not to go for the '10, they look great and the interior is awesome.

Thats if I was in the market for a new truck.
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That's always been my line of thinking. I'd buy the latest model that was out without any major changes. Main reason I've been steering away from looking at any '07s since they were the first ones.

But with seeing the '08s sitting used and not sure how many '09s on lots, I wasn't sure if there were any changes between the '08s and '09s that would sway the decision either way. I've also been looking at the 5.9 3rd gens, but even the '06s I'm finding are 100K+ miles.
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I agree with Blake, I'd go with a pre-09 because of the locked ECM. Theres no way your gonna buy yourself a new Dodge and not want to mod it so go for a 08 or early 09, strip the bluetec crap and enjoy your new truck!!
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Originally Posted by AggieJustin
But with seeing the '08s sitting used and not sure how many '09s on lots, I wasn't sure if there were any changes between the '08s and '09s that would sway the decision either way.
In stock form the only differences will the the version of the flash that is on the truck.

If you go to yanking all of the "non-essential" stuff off so that the truck can run properly then there is no difference. Once the Bluetec stuff is gone, the problems with the 6.7 disappear with it. My truck has never been reflashed since leaving the lot in Feb 08. Its late 07 build. Did deletes at 15000 miles. Have over 40000 with not a single hiccup. Before that I had a couple of the P2262 codes. Dealer wanted to clean out the turbo... Told him Id take care of it myself. Full turbo back and a few hard runs with heavy loads on the EB and I literally watched my troubles fly out the exhaust pipe.

If I were looking I would locate only non ECM locked trucks. After that normal wheeling and dealing processes apply.
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What's the deal with the "locked up" ECM? Does that mean you can't put a box on them?
Old 09-08-2009, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry Smith
What's the deal with the "locked up" ECM? Does that mean you can't put a box on them?
At this time no.


ECM Lock Out TSB
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5.9 would be my choice. It's proven itself again and again countless times. If you want a 3rd Gen. 5.9 your best choice would probably be in a 2004-2005. Good Luck
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Originally Posted by Seydler3
5.9 would be my choice. It's proven itself again and again countless times. If you want a 3rd Gen. 5.9 your best choice would probably be in a 2004-2005. Good Luck

I agree, my next truck will be either an '02 or an 04.0. I personally dont want to purchase a new one again. Besides, Ive already got my first gen and a 6.7. Now I need a 3rd gen 5.9 and a 2nd gen. Actually I really need to win the lotto.

But, towards the original topic, the 6.7 caught a really bad rap when first introduced, which it justifiably had, DUE TO THE EMISSIONS SYSTEM. There is nothing wrong with the 6.7 as power plant itself. Its the life sucking federal mandates that ruined its rep.

How many guys do you see on here complaining that they just did all of the deletes and now their truck is crap.

I haven't seen a single one, and lately, well according to my wife anyway, I spend way to much time around here.

Now lets say you don't want to mod it, or live in an area where you cannot delete the Bluetec. The latest flashes have helped cure a lot of the original problems. Some troubles do exist still, but the tides have turned to where the greater majority of guys with the stock trucks are not having problems. And that is not just on this site. I know of 6 or 7 guys that have 08 and 09, completely stock trucks, with no trouble. Mileage varies with them from a few thousand to several tens of thousands.
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Originally Posted by blake.clark
I agree, my next truck will be either an '02 or an 04.0.
Get an '02 2nd gen is the best haha! unless you got kids and ppl to haul around. Then get an '04. As long as its a 5.9! And yeah...if i were to get a 6.7 i'd take all that bluetec rap off.
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Originally Posted by Seydler3
Get an '02 2nd gen is the best haha! unless you got kids and ppl to haul around. Then get an '04. As long as its a 5.9! And yeah...if i were to get a 6.7 i'd take all that bluetec rap off.

Ive got a mega, so Ive already got my people hauler and work truck. Next one is my toy.
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Originally Posted by blake.clark
Ive got a mega, so Ive already got my people hauler and work truck. Next one is my toy.
Then get an '02 One of my favorite lookin trucks ever!
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Originally Posted by Seydler3
If you want a 3rd Gen. 5.9 your best choice would probably be in a 2004-2005.
What's your reasoning behind picking the '04-'05s? Any major issues to worry about in the '06s-'07.0s? I know there was more electrical overhead added that complicates some things, but are there other larger issues to look out for?

I know '04.5 went to the catalytic converter and 325 engine, but figured the later 5.9s had most of the problems worked out (including any emissions things).



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