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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:42 PM
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winter front for 06

I need you guys to settle this for me. I know a guy that just bought an 06 mega cab 3500. The service manger told him not to put a winter front on it because the engine and turbo need air. Now I can not get him to believe me that it will benifit him in the cold temps we have here in canada. I showed him the dodge winter front on my 03 and still he is stuck on what the service manager told him.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 08:46 PM
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Thats a load of BS. I have one on my truck and have had no problems. Why would Dodge sell one if it was bad for the truck? That and the block heater cord were my first purchases for the truck.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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The stack of coolers up front do need some air. That's why the Mopar cover has a square opening with flaps so you can give it a little air when it's really cold outside or more air when it's a little warmer. Have him read the owners manual. It says that some air is needed for the tranny cooler and you should not completely block it off. Driving in really cold temps without a cover and no load my not let the engine get hot enough to burn off excess contaminents and moisture in the oil.
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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I think they are a waste of money. I have tried one before and I couldn't tell the differance on or off. Why would you want to cut the air down to the intercooler?
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Old Jan 12, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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When it gets really cold the mopar front is worth it, but even if it is cold and you are towing you should take it off cause you could fry your tranny.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
I think they are a waste of money. I have tried one before and I couldn't tell the differance on or off. Why would you want to cut the air down to the intercooler?
I guess 5 million truckers are wasting there money...
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Ho does a Winter Front cause a G56 or an NV5600 to "Fry"?
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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It all comes down to what you are doing. If you reduce airflow, the negative results are higher EGT's because of reduced flow to the intercooler, Higher auto tranny temps because of reduced flow to tranny cooler, and slightly lower fuel mileage. The benefits are decreased warmup time and a warmer interior temps. A diesel motor is most efficient and uses less fuel at FOT, so getting it up to FOT quickly will help.

If you are going to tow or getting into some "heavy use" driving, you may want to remove it or at least open up the flaps.

I typically only run mine when it is below freezing.

I guess 5 million truckers are wasting there money...
Semi's aren't running automatics with tranny coolers (I'm guessing). That's one less issue they have to deal with.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Sorry, I was talking about autos not manuals
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by doorguy
I need you guys to settle this for me. I know a guy that just bought an 06 mega cab 3500. The service manger told him not to put a winter front on it because the engine and turbo need air. Now I can not get him to believe me that it will benifit him in the cold temps we have here in canada. I showed him the dodge winter front on my 03 and still he is stuck on what the service manager told him.
The SM, is full of you know what. The post about the truckers is absolutely correct. You live in Saskatoon? Well worth it. I bought one a couple of months ago and have been very satisfied with it. I'm in Edmonton and get about as cold as you do. You would do well to run one. It may not be worth it it some of the warmer regions down south, but in Canada in the Prairies it is a no brainer.
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by doorguy
I need you guys to settle this for me. I know a guy that just bought an 06 mega cab 3500. The service manger told him not to put a winter front on it because the engine and turbo need air. Now I can not get him to believe me that it will benifit him in the cold temps we have here in canada. I showed him the dodge winter front on my 03 and still he is stuck on what the service manager told him.
I live in michigan and install my Dodge winterfront in late November and run it until late march.I have never had any problems.I think the service manager is full of BS coobie
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Old Jan 13, 2007 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by RAMRODD
I think they are a waste of money. I have tried one before and I couldn't tell the differance on or off. Why would you want to cut the air down to the intercooler?
before the winter front, my drive to work i would only hit 170. with the winter front and all flaps open, i now hit 190. when it's colder, i close a couple flaps and still hit 190.
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Old Jan 14, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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The fuel mileage might actually go up! Diesels like a warm engine. Just not too warm..

So, add that to the list of "good" reasons for a winter front. By the way, here in Oregon the temps this morning were 22*, that means I only open a single flap on my Mopar cover..
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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I guess 5 million truckers are wasting there money...
Actualy I see less trucks running them now then in the old days. I think it is more of a habit.
Have you ever heard of a thermostat???? Yesterdays high was -8 when I got home last night it was -22 I was not pulling anything and my truck was running a frigid 200. Why do I need a winter front so my fan will run. Or better yet put a winter front on so I can block my intercooler so when I am pulling I can get those egts up (because that is really Important ) But this is only my opinion
The last truck that I put a winter front on was my 2000 Dodge Diesel That thing would never warm up I tried different thermostats too. (neither helped) Exhaust brake did the trick on that truck.
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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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I like the idea of it keeping all the salt + sand slush/spray out of my radiator & IC
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