Of course the numbers Cummins publishes are not for the Dodge application, those numbers are always published by Dodge and are always different than what Cummins has for other applications.

There are two pictures on the media site, I'll try posting one to my gallery for you, it's very high res and large though.

Ok, had to shrink it to 50% height and width but assuming it's approved it should be there soon. It's a side shot of a 3500 QC Cummins in Silver.

 

Thanks for posting the pic, Berak. From that view the tail lights look the same as any other 3rd gen. truck.

 

The logical reason for having two 6sp auto's,different applications,the dodge ctd, commercial trucks,would get the aisin tranny,a proven commercial unit,with warranty up to 300K miles in medium duty trucks. The 68re would be a better fit for the non-commercial units,you know, the jack-um up,big tires,big chip,cruise up and down the street crowd or towing the 5iver a few times yearly,hauling the boat,the ATV's,the harleys ,etc.I guess the information will all be public in due time.

 

Are we sure the two trans' are different? how do we know the trans in the pickup is not the asin with a different name for whatever reason?

 

Do the same transmissions often have completely different gear ratios? Is that something that's easy to change? Are the guys who've posted on this website and several others who have first hand knowledge of the 68RE being produced here in the U.S. lying? If they were the same wouldn't DC refer to them in a simular manner rather than Aisin AS68RC vs. 68RE Orion? Isn't the 68RE nomenclature consistent with the Mopar designations for in house automatics built by Mopar for the last half a century? Doesn't all of this evidence point to the fact that the 68RE exists and is not the Aisin regardless how little sense it seems to make to someone out here?

 

are you tring to say there are two different auto's!?!?!

 

Brother, you are taking all of this entirely to personally. If someone disagrees with you then they are calling you a liar, or they are lying or they're plotting to subvert your online image through highly complex and evil underhanded tactics. edit Sit back, drink a cold one..wait till January and say I TOLD YOU SO! There really is no need to be play the victim just because someone disagrees with you.

Bill

 

Try this out for a brain teaser. The AW4/5 that Diamler/Jeep uses are Aisans renamed something else, and are designated A400/A500's in Toyota vehicles.

 

As I've already said, I take none of this personally. I find it amusing actually. The simple fact is that no one can be disagreeing with me because it's not my information it's from DC. I didn't create it, it's official DC info. Wait until January for what? THIS IS THE OFFICIAL RELEASE INFORMATION. I am not upset one iota, I am laughing at people's ability to ignore simple facts when presented that do not support their own logic. I could care less if the Aisin was the 68RE, in fact I wish it was, as I think the Aisin will be the beefier unit. The information published by DC however indicates, WITHOUT ANY REASON TO DOUBT IT, it is not.

If anyone would like, I'd be glad to offer you 10 to 1 odds on any bet up to $100 that the 68RE is not the Aisin. Money will be donated to DTR. You offer $100 and I'll offer $1000.

 

Yeah that's quite the brain teaser. The AW4 transmission looks to me like it was referred to as the .... wait for it .... AW4 transmission by Jeep. AW standing for Aisin Warner, and most likely 4 meaning 4 speed. Just like the Aisin being used by the Cab and Chassis is being called the AS68RC transmission.

Notice how these transmissions all start with a letter indicating the outsourced manufacturer's name? Notice how the 68RE starts with a number? Thanks for supporting my position.

 

No, DC is. You have a more reliable source?

It's interesting that over on the TDR forum, no one even suggests that they might be the same transmission. They might not understand or agree with the decision, but no one that I've seen believes otherwise.

 

i just can't stand it. this is just to good. notice how they both have the number 68 and an R. thanks for supporting my position.
tim

 

Nope, just stirring the pot as usual. LOL

 

Yeah, they are both 6 speeds, so they have a 6. Are you familiar with the Dodge naming convention?

Why don't you take me up on my offer to donate to DTR? I mean if you aren't at least 1/10th as sure as I am about your position, you probably shouldn't bother replying to this thread.

 

Did all of you doubters read this thread on this site that I started back in April?

Here are two quotes from two others who posted in that thread:

and then a bit later

You are ignoring the facts from DC and you basically are calling the gentlemen liars, not me.