KC works at KBB or Edmunds, can't remember which. He's also on the DiRT mailing list I subscribe to about Dodge trucks. If he says it, you can pretty much take it to the bank and cash it.

 

Also, Luke, I don't know how often Google updates everything but since it just came out today, it may be a day before it gets disseminated.

 

I used to have a login to www.daimlerchryslermedia.com, but I can't remember what it was. I bet it's all in there. You can get brochures and all kinds of nice pics for officially released material there.

 

I'm on Dirt also. KC works for Edmunds and apparently the media info came out today.

 

Ok, that's all fine. Like I said before, if my zone people have been telling me wrong, I'll eat my words. I just haven't seen anything that state's any of this yet.

 

I have acquired the official Press release documents (won't mention the source, even though this is public info), here is the relevant info on the powertrain options:

2500/3500 SPECIFICATIONS
All dimensions are in inches (millimeters) unless otherwise noted.
All dimensions measured at curb weight with standard tires and wheels.
GENERAL INFORMATION
Body Styles __________________________________________________ _______ Regular cab and Quad Cab®
Assembly Plants _____________________________________________ Saltillo, Mexico and St. Louis, Missouri
EPA Vehicle Class __________________________________________________ ___________ Standard Pickup
ENGINE: 5.7-LITER HEMI® MAGNUM V-8
Availability __________________________________________________ _______________________Std.—All(a)
Type and Description ________________________________________ Eight-cylinder, 90° V-type, liquid-cooled
Displacement __________________________________________________ ________ 343 cu. in. (5654 cu. cm)
Bore x Stroke __________________________________________________ _________3.92 x 3.58 (99.5 x 90.9)
Valve System ___________ Pushrod-operated overhead valves, 16 valves, hydraulic lifters with roller followers
Fuel Injection_________________________________________ ___ Sequential, multi-port, electronic, returnless
Construction ____________________________ Deep-skirt cast-iron block with cross-bolted main bearing caps,
aluminum alloy heads with hemispherical combustion chambers
Compression Ratio __________________________________________________ _____________________ 9.6:1
Power (SAE net)__________________________ 345 bhp (257 kW) @ 5,400 rpm, (58.4 bhp/L), 2500 Series(b);
330 bhp (246 kW) @ 4,800 rpm, (55.9 bhp/L), 3500 Series
Torque (SAE net) _____________________________375 lb.-ft. (509 N•m) @ 4,200 rpm, 2500 and 3500 Series
Max. Engine Speed __________________________________________________ ________________5,800 rpm
Fuel Requirement ____________________________ Unleaded mid-grade, 89 octane (R+M)/2—recommended,
Unleaded regular, 87 octane (R+M)/2—acceptable
Oil Capacity__________________________________________ ______________________________ 7 qt. (6.6L)
Coolant Capacity __________________________________________________ _____________ 18.7 qt. (17.7L)
Emission Control_________Dual three-way catalytic converters, internal engine features with knock sensors(b)
(a) Not available on 3500 SRW.
(b) All manual transmission equipped vehicles meet LEV I chassis-certified emissions requirements in
California, New York, Massachusetts, Maine and Vermont. Meets Tier 2 HDV 1,2 chassis-certified emissions
requirements in 45 remaining states. Ram 2500 and 3500 models equipped with automatic transmission and
sold in 45 states meet Tier 2 HDV 1,2 chassis-certified emissions requirements. Ram 2500 models equipped
with automatic transmission and sold in California, New York, Massachusetts, Maine and Vermont meet LEV
II—MDV 1 category chassis-certified emissions requirements. Ram 3500 models equipped with automatic
transmission and sold in California, New York, Massachusetts, Maine and Vermont meet LEV II—MDV 2
category chassis-certified emissions requirements.

ENGINE: 5.9-LITER H.O. CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL I-6
Availability __________________________________________________ Opt.—All; available until Dec. 31, 2006
Type and Description ________________________ Six-cylinder, inline, liquid-cooled, turbocharged, intercooled
Displacement __________________________________________________ ________ 359 cu. in. (5883 cu. cm)
Bore x Stroke __________________________________________________ _______4.02 x 4.72 (102.1 x 119.9)
Valve System __________________________________________________ ______ OHV, 24 valves, solid lifters
Fuel Injection_________________________________________ ________ Electronic high-pressure common rail
Construction __________________________________________________ _________ Cast-iron block and head
Compression Ratio __________________________________________________ ____________________ 17.2:1
Power (SAE net)__________________________ 325 bhp (242 kW) @ 2,900 rpm—High Output (51.7 bhp/L)(a)
Torque (SAE net) __________________________________ 610 lb.-ft. (827 N•m) @ 1,600 rpm—high output(a)
Maximum High-Idle Engine Speed __________________________________________________ ____3,500 rpm
Fuel Requirement __________________________________________________ _____________________ Diesel
Oil Capacity__________________________________________ ____________________ 12 qt. (11.4L) with filter
Coolant Capacity __________________________________________________ _____________ 32.7 qt. (30.9L)
Emission Controls________________________ Oxidation catalytic converter and internal engine features(a)(b)
(a) Not available on 3500 SRW.
(b) All manual transmission equipped vehicles meet LEV I chassis-certified emissions requirements in
California, New York, Massachusetts, Maine and Vermont. Meets Tier 2 HDV 1,2 chassis-certified emissions
requirements in 45 remaining states. Ram 2500 and 3500 models equipped with automatic transmission and
sold in 45 states meet Tier 2 HDV 1,2 chassis-certified emissions requirements. Ram 2500 models equipped
with automatic transmission and sold in California, New York, Massachusetts, Maine and Vermont meet LEV
II—MDV 1 category chassis-certified emissions requirements. Ram 3500 models equipped with automatic
transmission and sold in California, New York, Massachusetts, Maine and Vermont meet LEV II—MDV 2
category chassis-certified emissions requirements.

ENGINE: 6.7-LITER HIGH OUTPUT CUMMINS TURBO DIESEL I-6
Availability ________________________________________________ Opt.—2500, 3500; available Jan. 1, 2007
Type and Description ________________________ Six-cylinder, inline, liquid-cooled, turbocharged, intercooled
Displacement __________________________________________________ ________ 408 cu. in. (6690 cu. cm)
Bore x Stroke __________________________________________________ __________ 4.21 x 4.88 (107 x 124)
Valve System __________________________________________________ ______ OHV, 24 valves, solid lifters
Fuel Injection_________________________________________ ________ Electronic high-pressure common rail
Construction __________________________________________________ _________ Cast-iron block and head
Compression Ratio __________________________________________________ ____________________ 17.3:1
Power (SAE net)______________________________________________ _____ 350 bhp (261 kW) @ 3,013 rpm
Torque (SAE net) _______________________________ 650 lb.-ft. (881 N•m) @ 1,500 rpm w/6-spd. automatic;
610 lb.-ft. (827 N•m) @1,400 rpm w/6-spd. manual
Maximum High-idle Engine Speed __________________________________________________ ____3,500 rpm
Fuel Requirement __________________________________________________ _______ Ultra Low Sulfur Diesel
Oil Capacity__________________________________________ ____________________ 12 qt. (11.3L) with filter
Coolant Capacity __________________________________________________ _____________ 29.5 qt. (28.0L)
Emission Controls_________________________ Exhaust after-treatment systems and internal engine features

 

Now the tranny options, the 68RE is being called the Orion and is available 01/01/07 with the 6.7 Cummins. I don't see it mentioned that it's a Autostik which was stated in the last info I read and posted from Allpar.

TRANSMISSION: G56—MANUAL, SIX-SPEED OVERDRIVE
Availability _______________ Std. with 5.7-liter V-8; Std. with 5.9-liter H.O. Diesel; Std. with 6.7-liter H.O. diesel
Description __________________________________________________ ___________Synchronized in all gears
Gear Ratios
1st __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 6.29
2nd __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 3.48
3rd __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 2.10
4th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 1.38
5th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 1.00
6th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 0.79
Reverse __________________________________________________ ____________________________ 5.74

TRANSMISSION: 5-45RFE—AUTOMATIC FIVE-SPEED
Availability __________________________________________________ _______ Optional with 5.7-liter engines
Description _______________________________________ Three planetary gear sets, one overrunning clutch,
full electronic control, electronically-controlled converter clutch
Gear Ratios
1st __________________________________________________ _________________________________ 3.0
2nd __________________________________________________ __________1.67—upshift; 1.50—kick-down
3rd __________________________________________________ _________________________________ 1.0
4th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 0.75
5th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 0.67
Reverse __________________________________________________ ____________________________ 3.00
Overall Top Gear ____________________________________ 2.50 with 3.73 axle ratio; 2.75 with 4.10 axle ratio

TRANSMISSION: 48RE—AUTOMATIC, FOUR-SPEED OVERDRIVE
Availability ______________________ 48RE—optional with 5.9-liter diesel engine; available until Dec. 31, 2006
Description ______________________________Hydraulic control, electronically-controlled governor overdrive,
overdrive lockout and converter clutch
Gear Ratios
1st __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 2.45
2nd __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 1.45
3rd __________________________________________________ _________________________________ 1.0
4th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 0.69
Reverse __________________________________________________ ____________________________ 2.20
Overall Top Gear Ratio _______________________________ 2.57 with 3.73 axle ratio; 2.82 with 4.10 axle ratio

TRANSMISSION: 68RFE ORION—AUTOMATIC, SIX-SPEED
Availability ___________________________________ Opt. with 6.7L turbo diesel engine; available Jan. 1, 2007
Description __________________________________________________ _________ Three planetary gear sets,
one overrunning clutch, full electronic control, electronically controlled converter clutch
Gear Ratios
1st __________________________________________________ ______________________________ 3.231
2nd __________________________________________________ ______________________________ 1.837
3rd __________________________________________________ ______________________________ 1.410
4th __________________________________________________ ________________________________ 1.0
5th __________________________________________________ _______________________________ 0.816
6th __________________________________________________ _______________________________ 0.625
Reverse __________________________________________________ __________________________ 4.444
Overall Top Gear Ratio ______________________________ 2.33 with 3.73 axle ratio; 2.56 with 4.10 axle ratio

 

Before anyone asks, all hauling / towing capacities for the 6.7 are pending.

 

could the 68re be the offical name for the aisin made transmission.
tim

 

Short answer is No. The Aisin is referred to as the Aisin AS68RC six-speed automatic with PTO capability.

 

this is getting to be fun. over on dodgetalk.com they also have an offical press release, even naming places of origin for various parts. only show one 6 speed auto and it is made in japan. hey luke i want mine it grey.
tim

 

Yes, the official information that also came out about the cab and chassis units (which I did not post any details from, it's a seperate document, there are actually 10 documents that came with the new details) talks about the Aisin in some detail including the fact at the end that mentions:

MANUFACTURING INFORMATION
2007 model year production start: July 2006 (September 2006 for diesel
automatic)
Production location: Saltillo Assembly Plant in Coahuila, Mexico
6.7-liter Cummins Turbo Diesel engine: Cummins Engine Plant in
Columbus, Ind.
5.7-liter HEMI V-8 engine: Saltillo Engine Plant in Saltillo, Mexico
Six-speed automatic transmission: Aisin Transmission Facility in Ogawa,
Aichi, Japan
Six-speed manual transmission: Sao Bernardo do Campo plant in Sao
Paulo, Brazil
Five-speed automatic transmission: Kokomo Transmission in Kokomo,
Ind.

Nothing new or surprising about that though. Of course the Cab and Chassis press release only mentions one 6 speed since it's the only one available for the C&C.

 

yea i saw that and that it is what makes me think only one 6 speed auto. i guess i will just have to wait a few more months for clarification.
tim

 

tcb, there is nothing confusing about the information. I'm not sure why your confused, it's pretty specific and straightforward.

 

Who cares about automatic transmissions. The real "tragic" news here is the engine detuning for the manual transmission.

This news confimrs that the G56 transmission was a horrible replacement for the 5600 trans. If 610 lb/ft. is its max, then you have to ask yourself if DC is trying to phase out the manual transmission in the next few years.

If so, then the only trucks worth buying will be medium duties with 6/7/9 speed manuals.

Very sad.