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Old 04-19-2013, 05:14 PM
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Unhappy Hard start, ruff idle, knocking, no power

Went out 1 morning and decided to change my smarty to #6 since #5 was smoking to much in O/D and #6 has no timming so seemed like a good idea.
Everythig loaded as normal, unplugged the smarty, waited 30sec befor cold starting the truck (Always unplug my DR Performance befor pluging in smarty) turned ignition and started the truck, took a lil longer then usual to start, smoked more then usual and a god awful knock like an old neglected dump truck, ruff idle up and down, exhaust sounded different also as if it was half under water, check engine light on along with the WIF light. Immediatelly turned the truck off. Returned my truck back to stock settings with Smarty then restarted and exact same problems. Pluged Smarty back in and checked for codes, got these axact same codes from the dash display aslo. P0340, P0341, P0652, P0237, P251, P2269
From what I read online there may be a short circuit some where maby the 5v wire? do all these codes have the same common 5v wire?
Tested batteries and their fine. Getting very discouraged here this is my first diesel and got the D/W and then this all in 1 month. Getting tired of spending $$$$$$$$ on this truck, I just wanna drive it!
just prior to this I repaired a broken purple wire for the rear left tail light, it was a no brainer, broken wire cut out the bad soldered in new then shrink tubed.
any help is greatly appreciated to this diesel Noob!
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I'm not going to be any help but I am having the exact same problem. I have replaced fuel rail pressure sensor, fuel rail PRV, coolant temp sensor and have cleaned and dielectric greased all connectors on the engine.
I hope we both can find some answers!!!

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I wish I had started the truck first thing that way I would know if Smarty had anything to do with it or not. I just dawned on me now that the night befor my overhead display was not showing temp and when cycling throught the fuel millage and odometer there was nothing. overhead has always worked befor that night, sensor is located around the a/c I believe along with the 5v wire. Going to remove passenger side inner fender well and tear into it deep tomorrow, removing all wire looms and electrical tape hoping to find something befor it goes to the shop Monday and save myself a lot of $$$$
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Well let me know what you find. The dodge dealer wanted to replace my high pressure fuel pump, to start with, at a cost of 2,800.00. That's when I took the truck and ran starting to replace items on my own.

Good luck I hope you find it.
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what codes are you getting?
wher you using a smarty also?
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Yes I have a smarty SSR with UDC. Codes I got were, water in fuel, rail pressure low voltage, rail pressure high voltage, and a few others. The codes are PO251, PO341, PO237, PO652, PO193 & P2266

All are pretty much seem to be related to voltage issues!
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Originally Posted by chrisr_1983
what codes are you getting?
wher you using a smarty also?
Here is a link, you can review, to my issue on another forum.

http://www.competitiondiesel.com/for...d.php?t=152350




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Old 04-23-2013, 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisr_1983
what codes are you getting?
wher you using a smarty also?
Chrisr_1983

Please let me know what you find out from the shop.

Thanks


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Just went to the shop to get an update, still no luck after fixing a bunch of bad wires from previous back yard mechanic, I am however receiving a 5v power from the computer, next step is to check out the fuse box, apparently there is a circuit board inside which gets exposed to the elements from underneath, the new revised fuse box has a boot underneath to protect it from the elements. Seems to be common problem, no scrap yards have any in stock within a 500kms radious
I'll post back next week and give you an update.
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Thanks for the update, I hope you find one and that fixes it.


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Any updates on your truck?
Please let me know.


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There was an issue with a 5v reference wire coming out of the ECU so it has been sent out for a rebuild, 1000$can
really hope this fixes it
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Originally Posted by chrisr_1983
There was an issue with a 5v reference wire coming out of the ECU so it has been sent out for a rebuild, 1000$can
really hope this fixes it
Is the ECU the same as the ECM?
Did you replace the PDC that you mentioned earlier?
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PDC tested fine, there are a couple 5v wires coming out of the computer, 1 of my wires only had 1.5v
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Well I hope the rebuilt ECU does the trick!



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