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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Clutches Aren't up to the task

Well I found out today for sure, pulling around 24,000# behind the truck with the EZ on level 1 could slip the clutch pretty easy in 2nd gear.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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[quote author=Mopar_Mudder link=board=20;threadid=14817;start=0#138963 date=1053116364]<br>Well I found out today for sure, pulling around 24,000# behind the truck with the EZ on level 1 could slip the clutch pretty easy in 2nd gear.<br>[/quote]<br><br>I thought the trucks were only rated up to around 20k GCW (I realize that they will pull much more than that, though). Maybe they're just not up to the task of pulling more than the designed weight at more than the designed power?
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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You mean that they aren't designed to handle 40% more weight and 23% more weight then what they are designed to handle What were they thinking.<br><br>I don't blame the truck or design, it is awsome not doubt about it. I figured that I would have to be looking for a different clutch soon.<br><br>Oh ya, the truck is rated for 23,000# gcvw, I figure I was right close to 32,000# had no scale close to check it for sure.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:24 PM
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Ya, I was teasing you anyway. I know these trucks can handle a lot more than they were built to haul. Heck, look at the incredible power some guys are getting out of the engines. I wonder what the most weight is that someone's has actually pulled with a Ram. Not just moved, but pulled from point A to point B.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:28 PM
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23K with the 10.5&quot; rear diff; 24K with the 11.5&quot; rear diff. That is GCWR. If you are towing a 24000# trailer (load), you are in the FL60/FL70 Freightliner class loads. As a matter of fact, the FL50/60/70 trucks (and their competitive counterparts) are not really tractors, and limited to about 32K# for towing (if you get the tractor conversion package). You have to go to a FL106 or bigger to be road tractor class, which will take you above the 32K limtiations. Our trucks are rated for 16K# towing, plus the truck weight. Mine truck with me in it weighs 8160#, so add 16K for a trailer, and that puts me at GCWR of 24160#. I would not recommend more than that on a regular basis unless you do some major mods to the vehicle, like bigger brakes (need bigger wheels), bigger drive shafts, bigger differentials (yes these have limits too), bigger clutch/flywheel, bigger master cylinder to operate the bigger brakes...... <br>I could buy a used FL106 coming off 3 year lease for 35K, and make no mods.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:33 PM
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Max GCWR on a new DOdge 3500 is 23k, not 24k, sorry :
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:44 PM
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I have a 2500 quad cab, short bed, short bed, 4x4, SO, 5-speed manual and 3.73 gears and I remember my GCWR being 19,100 lbs. Dodge's towing guide on their website is down right now otherwise I'd check it again for sure. My truck weighs 8,100 lbs. (GVWR 9k) loaded with my dogs, a hunting buddy and gear leaving me room for an 11k trailer. Fairly small compared to what I'm sure it can pull.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:50 PM
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Re:Clutches Aren't up to the task

Parshal, your truck has a 19,000lb GCWR even.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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That's right, I think the extra 100 lbs. comes if you have the 4.1 rear.
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Old May 16, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Parshal, with the 4.10's, the GCWR goes to 20,000lbs even.
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Old May 18, 2003 | 04:57 AM
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You are SO RIGHT, Luke. Got the printed pages for SO output 2500 here in front of me. Thanks for keeping these guys straight.

GCWR - 4.10, 20,000#/ 3.73, 19,000#
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