anti-spin or not
#18
anit-spin all the way, wouldn't buy one without it
Well I can say one thing that the anit-spin on my Dodge works 10x better than what I had in my GMC. From my experience with this unit it works forwards or backwards and kicks when one tire wants to spin. I passed up another Dodge truck that I liked better than the one I have just because it didn't have anti-spin. My experience towing in the rain says without anti-spin I have to use 4 wheel drive get moving where with anti-spin both rear wheels get me going without 4 wheel drive. By the way...it just works...no need to learn how to use it.
#19
If both tires are not spinning...you will need to apply minor braking pressure till the motionless wheel begins to spin. Then the gear driven anti spin will engage and transfer load to both wheels.
#21
I have a good story for you all about this too. I have a dually (as you can see) and I deliver (pulling a trailer) to jobsites all day long. Normally there is enough room to pull into the jobsite when I get there but this time was different. I had to pull over on the side of the road and you guessed it the shoulder was soft. I was worried but figured I have 4x4 so no prob.. When I went to pull away from the side of the road (still loaded) I got on it pretty hard and without even "spinning a tire" I drove out of it like I was on dry pavement all the way around. I backed into the job site and got unloaded. When I left I noticed that where I was parked on the side of the road there were ruts in the mud about 4-6" deep and the blacktop had two perfectly lined out tread marks from the tire that was doing all of the work in 2 wheel drive!!!!!!! Would I ever have a non-locking he** no. But is it better for some people "my wife" yes she would just get into trouble on a rainy day and I would be fixing a new jeep liberty "non locking" as she owns now!!!
#22
Originally posted by Hercules130
I specifically ordered my truck without the limited slip. they are dangerous and useless in wet, icy, or snowy conditions in my expirience. besides, if you have 4-wheel drive then use it. i am waiting for a selectable locker.
I specifically ordered my truck without the limited slip. they are dangerous and useless in wet, icy, or snowy conditions in my expirience. besides, if you have 4-wheel drive then use it. i am waiting for a selectable locker.
I don't think that they are dangerous and useless maybe just the driver behind it.
I do and have done a lot of offroading and see a lot of people that get stuck because that are not locked or have a LS in the rig.
You can't drive the same speed in bad weather as in good and that is what most people try.
I haul gross around 18.5K and have spun tires on dry road with a Locker or the LS that is in this truck I run now and don't even think I would have been able to start out with out it.
I could say a sports car that goes fast is dangerous and useless because I dont have one and dont like them but I see a lot of people having all types of fun every day with them and they know how to drive them. Its all what you like or know how to use.
Jon
#24
So far it seems that as noted previously, people agree that limited slips work well on mixed traction surfaces, which includes most snow. I can get around fine with my crummy stock Michelin A/S tires in snow. Others have noted on uniformly slick surfaces a limited slip does make the rear end break loose easier, which isn't surprising as it's just a consequence of what they're expected to do (it's obviously harder to break the read end loose and fishtail with a big trailer/load in tow :^). On a uniformly slick surface where you're on edge of losing traction, if one wheel slips the limited slip delivers more traction to the other wheel which is on the verge of slipping, so it's more likely to slip and more likeley that the rear end will break loose; it's only doing what it's designed to do.
I didn't see too many comments about how well a limited slip works on ice, especially 'soft ice' close to freezing, the stuff that's hard to walk on and that can sometimes be found on bridges, in shady areas, or all over the place in ice storms like we have around here. Friends with limited slips in either their cars or trucks KNOW that their vehicles are much more prone to breaking the rear end loose in bad weather and especially on ice. In making light conversation about trucks I've had more than a few people comment that they either piled up their 4x4 trucks in winter conditions or got rid of them after some close calls, and I always comment that tire selection and tire traction is more important than number of driven wheels (or whether one has a limited slip). A brother talked to an Alaskan state trooper who was doing a survey of winter accidents vs vehicle type, and he commented that although pickups didn't tended to roll like SUVs, they were often off the road bass ackwards; in addition the light rear end can we all guess why ?
Due to the ice that we often get around here, producing conditions where WA and OR both will close roads, require chains regardless of vehicle type, etc., I've come to prefer an open diff, to use studded winter tires in season, and still carry chains. I've been out in conditions where the only other vehicles that I saw were large 4x4s with chains, and where I've overheard coworkers commenting that even with chains their cars were still breaking loose and sliding. When selectable lockers become available I'll get one those, as they seem to be the ideal solution. A selectable limited slip would be fine too :^)
I didn't see too many comments about how well a limited slip works on ice, especially 'soft ice' close to freezing, the stuff that's hard to walk on and that can sometimes be found on bridges, in shady areas, or all over the place in ice storms like we have around here. Friends with limited slips in either their cars or trucks KNOW that their vehicles are much more prone to breaking the rear end loose in bad weather and especially on ice. In making light conversation about trucks I've had more than a few people comment that they either piled up their 4x4 trucks in winter conditions or got rid of them after some close calls, and I always comment that tire selection and tire traction is more important than number of driven wheels (or whether one has a limited slip). A brother talked to an Alaskan state trooper who was doing a survey of winter accidents vs vehicle type, and he commented that although pickups didn't tended to roll like SUVs, they were often off the road bass ackwards; in addition the light rear end can we all guess why ?
Due to the ice that we often get around here, producing conditions where WA and OR both will close roads, require chains regardless of vehicle type, etc., I've come to prefer an open diff, to use studded winter tires in season, and still carry chains. I've been out in conditions where the only other vehicles that I saw were large 4x4s with chains, and where I've overheard coworkers commenting that even with chains their cars were still breaking loose and sliding. When selectable lockers become available I'll get one those, as they seem to be the ideal solution. A selectable limited slip would be fine too :^)
#25
"ditto" on the open....The non spinning wheel serves as a rudder. One wheel will break loose the other keeps it going straight! I have limited slip and it is nice at times. Just be aware if you haven't owned one if you are going around a corner and hit a slick spot she'll want to swap ends a lot quicker than with the open. But your biggest traction device will be the 4X4!
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