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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Scramblinman
The auto became electronically controlled in 1998.

47RH = hydraulic
47RE = electronic
Nope, 1996 was the RE, 94-95 were the only 2 years for the RH
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 2500
quad cab's four doors is the main feature I missed out on by getting a 97.

you also get to miss out on the fun connected to fuel pump failing. fuel injection pump is $1,000 even if you do your own labor + cost of lift pump.
unless you get a 12v quad cab

I do prefer the pre98 climate controls though
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Scramblinman
There are 1998 12v Quad Cabs. They are not growing on trees, but they are not exactly rare, either. They are however, popular trucks and most people price them accordingly.



Yeah, what's that, only a couple of thousand $$$s?



The 24v is easier to get more power out of with the plug 'n play boxes. The 12v is less expensive if you do the work yourself. I've also heard that the 24v heads are more prone to cracking. Personally, I'd rather have the proven greater mechanical reliability of the 12v engine.
I paid 395 for the FASS, and 1200 for the VP. Installed them both myself. I also installed the Edge EZ myself as well as the RV275's. I now have a very reliable truck, as reliable as any 12V and I average over 20MPG on every tank. That's with the 6spd and 4:10s. How many of you 12V guys can say that?
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:01 PM
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I paid 395 for the FASS, and 1200 for the VP. Installed them both myself. I also installed the Edge EZ myself as well as the RV275's. I now have a very reliable truck, as reliable as any 12V and I average over 20MPG on every tank. That's with the 6spd and 4:10s. How many of you 12V guys can say that?
Can say what? That we had to spend thousands of dollars to make our trucks as reliable as the previous model? My guess would be probably not very many.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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24valves get dynamic timing with the vp44
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Scramblinman
Can say what? That we had to spend thousands of dollars to make our trucks as reliable as the previous model? My guess would be probably not very many.
If you notice, 395 plus 1200 equals 1,595.00. That does not equate to thousands in my book, not by a long shot. And I see that you are running the NV4500. How many people on this site have had to have the 5th gear on thier 4500 fixed. Quite a few that I can think of. How many people have upgraded the 4500 to the 5600? Quite a few right, how much money do you think that costs? Even if you can do the job yourself. I'm not trying to get into a peeing match with ya here bud. There are positives and negatives with either 12V or 24V. All that I am saying is that I prefer my 24V. Obviously you prefer your 12V. Case closed.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 07:55 PM
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OK, ya all's got me wanting a 98 with quad cab. but what about the #53 block cracking issue that started in 98?

seems to me the 96-97 CTD were the most trouble free and most desirable.

Originally Posted by Forrest Nearing
unless you get a 12v quad cab

I do prefer the pre98 climate controls though
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by JAX
If you notice, 395 plus 1200 equals 1,595.00. That does not equate to thousands in my book, not by a long shot. And I see that you are running the NV4500. How many people on this site have had to have the 5th gear on thier 4500 fixed. Quite a few that I can think of. How many people have upgraded the 4500 to the 5600? Quite a few right, how much money do you think that costs? Even if you can do the job yourself. I'm not trying to get into a peeing match with ya here bud. There are positives and negatives with either 12V or 24V. All that I am saying is that I prefer my 24V. Obviously you prefer your 12V. Case closed.
You forgot the edge EZ and the RV 275's, and at 300 HP or so I know a lot of 12 valves getting that mileage or better. I have both a 12 and 24 valve truck, I'll take a 12 valve anyday!!
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JAX
If you notice, 395 plus 1200 equals 1,595.00. That does not equate to thousands in my book, not by a long shot.
Close enough. And you are still stuck with electronic lift and injection pumps that are continue to be more prone to failure and expensive repairs than their mechanical predecessors.

And I see that you are running the NV4500. How many people on this site have had to have the 5th gear on thier 4500 fixed. Quite a few that I can think of. How many people have upgraded the 4500 to the 5600? Quite a few right, how much money do you think that costs?
Apples and oranges. How are the NV4500s in the 94-98 12vs any worse than those in the 98.5-02 24vs? The NV5600 is also an orphaned transmission with little OEM or aftermarket support. Wait 'till it needs a $rebuild$. No thanks.

Even if you can do the job yourself. I'm not trying to get into a peeing match with ya here bud. There are positives and negatives with either 12V or 24V. All that I am saying is that I prefer my 24V. Obviously you prefer your 12V. Case closed.
Fair enough. Just ribbing you a little. My bro has a 01.5 2500 4x4 24v. It's a good enough truck. He didn't appear too happy when I told him why his pedal is starting to go dead, though. Said it might be better to just trade it in a brand new truck. I'd rather have a truck that can survive a nuclear blast.
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Old Oct 6, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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There is some good info coming out of these debates! Thanx! However I'm not feeling anymore inclined to buy a 24V though, but then I'm a HD mechanic and like to do my own tinkering.
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