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I... am indeed a VP virgin. But my time has finally come. I talked to the guys at city diesel in my home town the other day and they said the labor to remove the old and install the new IP was going to be about 395$. On my college budget, that is pretty much out of the question. I am confidant with gas engines but kinda timid with diesels. I have been researching it for a while and checkin out threads and stuff and it seems that the only difficult part is getting the timing right. Something about lining up the key ways. What exactly makes this so difficult, or is it that difficult. Really appreciate the input guys thanks.
Just make sure the key is at the top when you remove and install, so the key won't fall out. I've only ever removed mine, the hardest part was getting the lines off the pump. Other than that, it was a cake walk. I had the front end of my truck stripped and pump pulled in about 3 and a half hours. Skip the removal of the front end, and you should be able to knock about 2.5 hours off that time.
someone did a write up (can't remember member sorry) of doing a VP44 install on youtube. IMO it is a VERY helpful series just go to youtube.com and search for VP44 install. hope this helps
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I just did my VP and IP a month ago. It is pretty simple if you are mechanically incline.
1. Make sure you have the correct tool/puller to remover the VP from the front of the engine. I have heard about people bending the front cover(NO BUENO)
2. Make sure the Key on the new and old VP is on the top of the shaft, it makes it easier to remove and install. It also ensures you dont loose the key.
3. There are 3 bolts that hold the VP to the housing. The bolt between the VP and the block is kinda tough to get to. You will need an extension for your ratchet and make sure you pull all of the bolts off in an order. If you forget the back one and pull the rest it makes things harder than it needs to be.
If you update your signature, I guarantee somebody who lives near you would be glad to help you for a beer or two. It isnt that difficult.
And buy a gauge. IM if you have any questions.
1. Make sure you have the correct tool/puller to remover the VP from the front of the engine. I have heard about people bending the front cover(NO BUENO)
2. Make sure the Key on the new and old VP is on the top of the shaft, it makes it easier to remove and install. It also ensures you dont loose the key.
3. There are 3 bolts that hold the VP to the housing. The bolt between the VP and the block is kinda tough to get to. You will need an extension for your ratchet and make sure you pull all of the bolts off in an order. If you forget the back one and pull the rest it makes things harder than it needs to be.
If you update your signature, I guarantee somebody who lives near you would be glad to help you for a beer or two. It isnt that difficult.
And buy a gauge. IM if you have any questions.
Coop,
I just did mine 2 weeks ago. Watching the diesel dan videos is a great start. I can only add a couple of suggestions to the good ones mentioned above. 1) Make sure you have two intake gaskets just in case you rip them removing the air horn. 2) Take a mirror and look at what the key should look like in the slot before pressing off the old pump. This will help you determine if you have the new one installed correctly.
I did not remove the back group of injector lines. I had enough room to gently move them out of the way to remove/install the pump. Kept me from having to reach the back two lines.
I just did mine 2 weeks ago. Watching the diesel dan videos is a great start. I can only add a couple of suggestions to the good ones mentioned above. 1) Make sure you have two intake gaskets just in case you rip them removing the air horn. 2) Take a mirror and look at what the key should look like in the slot before pressing off the old pump. This will help you determine if you have the new one installed correctly.
I did not remove the back group of injector lines. I had enough room to gently move them out of the way to remove/install the pump. Kept me from having to reach the back two lines.
3. There are 3 bolts that hold the VP to the housing. The bolt between the VP and the block is kinda tough to get to. You will need an extension for your ratchet and make sure you pull all of the bolts off in an order. If you forget the back one and pull the rest it makes things harder than it needs to be.
Great. I really appreciate the advice. Im assuming that you get the key to the 12 o clock position by baring the engine? From what i read this was not as hard as i thought it was. For some reason in was under the impression that you actually had to adjust the timing of the IP once you already had it installed and the engine running. Also i live in knoxville TN but i go to school in south GA near Savannah. However i will prob do it my self from what I have learned in this thread.
I do not have a gear puller though. Im sure one of my buddies or my boss will have it though. So i can ask em, what exactly is it that I need. If they dont have it, where is the best place to get one.
I do not have a gear puller though. Im sure one of my buddies or my boss will have it though. So i can ask em, what exactly is it that I need. If they dont have it, where is the best place to get one.
Coop,
You can use a socket to turn the alternator nut counter-clockwise to turn the key to 12-oclock instead of baring the engine. I used a steering wheel puller to press the pump off the gear. You can get one cheap from harbor freight. If you don't have a harbor freight close by any auto parts place should have a puller that will work.
You can use a socket to turn the alternator nut counter-clockwise to turn the key to 12-oclock instead of baring the engine. I used a steering wheel puller to press the pump off the gear. You can get one cheap from harbor freight. If you don't have a harbor freight close by any auto parts place should have a puller that will work.
Just did mine also and installed a Airdog 100.... first for me also,,,,, I consider myself a pretty good shadetree mech. , but like you I was unsure of myself on a diesel, never put a wrench on one in my life.
Easy job though replacing the IP,,,,, good advice they've given you,,,
Make sure and do the search for VP install on Youtube like they said, it's like 5 or 6 episodes start to finish, but I watched it 2 or 3 times till I felt comfortable.
If you do pull the back three inj. lines off the head a 19mm stubby wrench sure comes in handy on #6 inj line at the head.
Make sure and break the injector lines loose as a "set" like Diesel Dan says in the video, otherwise you'll probably have a "for Sale" sign in the window
I made my own puller for the front gear, easy to do with a little surplus steel plate, but the steering wheel puller does the job also.
I set the timing cranking on the Alternator pulley like the other post said, nothing to it, just make sure and check the keyway for 12 o'clock setting.
Might want to think about replacing the cam sensor at this time since it sits right below the IP in the block, not that expensive of part.
You should be good to go, really not that hard of job, just take your time.
Easy job though replacing the IP,,,,, good advice they've given you,,,
Make sure and do the search for VP install on Youtube like they said, it's like 5 or 6 episodes start to finish, but I watched it 2 or 3 times till I felt comfortable.
If you do pull the back three inj. lines off the head a 19mm stubby wrench sure comes in handy on #6 inj line at the head.
Make sure and break the injector lines loose as a "set" like Diesel Dan says in the video, otherwise you'll probably have a "for Sale" sign in the window

I made my own puller for the front gear, easy to do with a little surplus steel plate, but the steering wheel puller does the job also.
I set the timing cranking on the Alternator pulley like the other post said, nothing to it, just make sure and check the keyway for 12 o'clock setting.
Might want to think about replacing the cam sensor at this time since it sits right below the IP in the block, not that expensive of part.
You should be good to go, really not that hard of job, just take your time.
well yall, i have def decided that I will be doing this myself now. And i have watched the diesel dan things before and they were pretty helpful with tips such as taking the injector lines of in two sets of three. Hopefully i will be able to go home soon and do this. (my truck is sitting at my parent house). I have been driving a honda ridge-line since thanksgiving... I die a little inside everyday ha.
Here's a very good write up on it.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=152404
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...d.php?t=152404
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