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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 12:48 AM
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Can an ECM out of a 2001 DODGE 2500 with a 5.9, 5 speed manual transmission be reflashed (programed) to replace an ECM on a 2001 DODGE 3500, 6 speed manual transmission with an HO Cummins engine? Both ECM's have the same Cummins part number (3947412).
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Old Jun 28, 2019 | 07:52 AM
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I don’t know what software differences there would be for a extra gear and a few extra leaves in the pack . I’m guessing that’s why the same part number.
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Old Jun 29, 2019 | 10:53 AM
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Hmm, I am pretty sure there is a difference between the standard and HO because I had to wait a week in Montana to get an HO ecm overnighted from Michigan to get my truck up and running...but that doesn't mean they couldn't be fooled with by a computer literate guy.....the dealership just couldn't do it or I'm guessing they would have, they had 2 non HO ecm's in stock.
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Old Jun 29, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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The HO motor uses a different injection pump and the motor runs a higher compression ratio that the SO motors.
I would guess the computers would be different.

It would also guess that it would be able to be re flashed, but that would be a question for the guys who you would ask to re-flash it.
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Old Jul 1, 2019 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Can an ECM out of a 2001 DODGE 2500 with a 5.9, 5 speed manual transmission be reflashed (programed) to replace an ECM on a 2001 DODGE 3500, 6 speed manual transmission with an HO Cummins engine? Both ECM's have the same Cummins part number (3947412).
I installed the ECM for 5 speed manual transmission today. It started right up on the first try. All the gauges and cruise control are working. I would like to get the ECM flashed for my HO with 6 speed manual transmission but it is running a lot better than I expected.
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Old Jul 2, 2019 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I installed the ECM for 5 speed manual transmission today. It started right up on the first try. All the gauges and cruise control are working. I would like to get the ECM flashed for my HO with 6 speed manual transmission but it is running a lot better than I expected.

Maybe you would not want the re-flash... I remember when the HO came out that folks put on SO VP44s to get a nice boost in performance over the HO.
So if it runs good and does not smoke.. why change it?
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Old Jul 2, 2019 | 04:35 PM
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That's interesting info....I remember the HO guys going with SO pumps for more fuel flow or something like that, easier to hot rod or such...
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I installed the ECM for 5 speed manual transmission today. It started right up on the first try. All the gauges and cruise control are working. I would like to get the ECM flashed for my HO with 6 speed manual transmission but it is running a lot better than I expected.
Define "a lot better than expected" if you would. I'm stuck in limp mode due to a failed ECM in my '02 HO 6 spd and having trouble finding a replacement. That would possibly make the search much easier.

Thanks! Randy.
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 08:08 AM
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ECM programming info regarding ECM replacements:

TSB 18-019-02A

There seems to be six versions of the firmware in the ECM which depends on two criteria:

1 - Emissions - 49 state (Federal) or California
2 - Transmission - Auto, 5 speed, or 6 speed
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Old Aug 22, 2019 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Western Rammer
Define "a lot better than expected" if you would. I'm stuck in limp mode due to a failed ECM in my '02 HO 6 spd and having trouble finding a replacement. That would possibly make the search much easier.

Thanks! Randy.
I am pretty sure I still have a 6 speed '01 ECM in my shop from a truck I drove , before I parted.
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