Lost injection pump key
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Lost injection pump key
Upon reinstalling the injection pump after doing a tappet cover gasket I lost the shaft key. At this point I can't prove that it didn't fall into the housing, Wondering what to do next? I'm thinking I should pull the vacumn pump to get a look further down. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also what can I do about replacing the key if I don't find it?
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The key is select fit for the injection pump, arrow points toward pump. You will need to pull front cover to locate it. Did you try using flex magnet first might pick it up that way. I always install the pump with keyway at the top. Less chance of key coming loose then, use a mirror if not aligned then turn pump shaft small increment until they do. Just pull the battery cables so nobody cranks over the engine while pump is out. Always make sure the key is all the way in the keyway slot and even front and back. Pull the cover you'll find it no sweat.
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I did everything you suggested. When I pulled the pump I noticed the key wasn't in it, I have a rock driveway and it could be in between the rocks but I can't find it. I will pull the front cover and see if I can find it in their, If I don't find it what do you think I should do for a replacement key?
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be sure 3–digit number stamped to top of keyway is same as 3–digit number stamped to injection pump data plate. Key is calibrated to the pump for timing purpose.
#5
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Go to home depot and pick up a nail magnet, it's on a pole and is the most powerful magnet I have ever used. It will find it if it is on the ground. Works really well
http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-T...8#.UkY8br3n99A
http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-T...8#.UkY8br3n99A
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The calibration number is stamped in the pump you would need to order that key # for that pump. Try the sweep of the yard with nail magnet first may get lucky and find it right away. Make sure you align the gears if you didn't mark them.
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Good Luck
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If I understand you correctly I can purchase a key that will have 3 numbers on it matching the numbers on the IP? I like your idea of the nail magnet. I've never heard of one but will head to home depot in the morning. Thanks
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#8
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Put a plastic bag over it and you could return it when done
I used them on my driveway when construction was going on, was tired of getting flat tires when new roof was going on my house. Will pick up nails from grass or out of the dirt. The one with wheels works great but might be over kill for your needs.
I used them on my driveway when construction was going on, was tired of getting flat tires when new roof was going on my house. Will pick up nails from grass or out of the dirt. The one with wheels works great but might be over kill for your needs.
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Found this thread someone used a replacement key without a problem but I have never done that before.
https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...4-t235897.html
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When I changed my last VP44, I got in a hurry and misaligned the key into the drive gear. I realized the screw up as I did it and found I had mashed the key.
I called my pump re-builder, Pensacola Diesel.They told me where the key number was stamped on the pump and for a small fee they sent me a new key.
I called my pump re-builder, Pensacola Diesel.They told me where the key number was stamped on the pump and for a small fee they sent me a new key.
#11
as long as a key would fit correctly, I can't see a single reason why someone couldn't use another key. using a key from another shaft would not affect timing or be the cause for any CEL's, as long as the key fit correctly.
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As someone who was on the wrong end of the wrench learning this lesson , let me assure you at is real.
#13
Not doubting you one bit, but what do you mean by "phase the pump in" I'm not familiar with that term. I just replaced a VP and although I put the key in correctly, I am still trying to understand how it would mess things up if the key was in backwards...unless the key going in backwards didn't allow the timing gear to mesh correctly or something like that. I realize the key does have an arrow on it and I'm sure this is why they stamped that on the key, but just trying to figure out why. Keep in mind I was always the kid at X-mas who tore apart his brand new toys just to see how they worked....LOL
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The pump is calibrated to a particular offset.
Wrong key, wrong injector timing ,
Bad for performance,
Bad for fuel economy.
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Not doubting you one bit, but what do you mean by "phase the pump in" I'm not familiar with that term. I just replaced a VP and although I put the key in correctly, I am still trying to understand how it would mess things up if the key was in backwards...unless the key going in backwards didn't allow the timing gear to mesh correctly or something like that. I realize the key does have an arrow on it and I'm sure this is why they stamped that on the key, but just trying to figure out why. Keep in mind I was always the kid at X-mas who tore apart his brand new toys just to see how they worked....LOL
Sounds stupid to me as well, but the first time I did a VP I put the key in backwards, what an ill running truck.
Seems to me they could do something electrically to time it in, but they don't.