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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Red face Found the importance of the FP gauge

I bought my truck (first time diesel owner) a few weeks ago. From the information I gleaned from this site I knew some gauges were in order. A call to diesel manor brought a fp gauge (mechanical with isolator) and egt to my door. I was a little leary about drilling the manifold pre turbo without removing anything but I did it and all is well. On the other hand upon starting the truck the fp gauge climbed to 15 psi and then dropped down to 0. I guess that I am glad to have installed the gauge to find this problem before it wasted the injection pump. Thanks again to DTR for all the good info.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Hmmm...I don't think the engine would run with 0 psi. You might need to borrow another gauge and test to make sure you don't have a problem with your new setup.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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Hmmm...I don't think the engine would run with 0 psi. You might need to borrow another gauge and test to make sure you don't have a problem with your new setup.
I am going to spend some time going over the set up. I just took the line off the regulator and bumped the starter and got a good flow from it. I finished the install last night and didnt have the time to go over all of it. Might still be some air in the supply line. Maybe I posted too soon. I was expecting the worst.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 11:43 AM
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That's fine...let us know what you find out, 'cause we're all learning!
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Yep install problem

When someone (me - oops) installed the 1/8 line from the regulator to the gauge tightened the fitting a little to aggressively and stretched the compression fitting. Hence it would initially register up to 15psi than drop to "0" as the pressure bled off. I guess all that working out after Christmas did do me some good....or in this case bad. I sprayed the fittings with soapy water yesterday while the truck was running and it did not bubble so I didnt think it was the fittings. All is well. Happy now.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Yukon Dodge
Hmmm...I don't think the engine would run with 0 psi. You might need to borrow another gauge and test to make sure you don't have a problem with your new setup.
The engine will run when the lift pump is not putting out any pressure if it is a vp-44 I dont think the cp3 trucks will run on 0 psi, I could be wrong though.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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The truck will run with zero pressure. Even at WOT with a comp it will run with 0psi.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 12:55 PM
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And pulling a heavy trailer, sometimes for a few thousand miles.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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The truck will run with a fuel pressure reading of zero (if plumbed ahead of the Injection pump) due to the fact that the IP has a small fuel pump built in.
The Lift/Transfer Pump's job is to supply enough fuel to keep the IP properly fed, and an overabundance of fuel to keep the IP cool.
The excess/warmed fuel is sent back to the fuel tank via the return line.
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Old Jan 15, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Vp will run with 0 psi, but it should NOT be pulling a vacuum.

If you have positive FP, then the VP is getting all the fuel it can handle.

If there's any kind of vacuum present, that's bad for the VP-- VERY bad.
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