Are 02 dodges that goood
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From: Valparaiso, IN
Good point Bcbigfoot! I had hot engine temps in my truck before and this is good advice, something to check into on any 24V. My radiator was about 75% plugged will oily crud. Also relocate the oil puke bottle or extend the blow by tube towrads the ground more.
I hear that I need to do this and that. Which honestly I don't have a problem spending the money to do it, if i knew that it would fix my truck. It suck when you put money into things that don't seem to fix it, or make much difference. Is there a air filter that is not 300 bucks, I could put on it. Just to see if that makes a difference and then I'll buy like a K&N if it does.
My boost is tops 19 or 20 and the truck only smokes when i first take off or get on it. Can you change your boost, If so how and what to.
My boost is tops 19 or 20 and the truck only smokes when i first take off or get on it. Can you change your boost, If so how and what to.
Yes a BHAF is good to run. Also look in to the Amsoil BHAF, it's more than the paper elements but its a nice filter. It's not oiled like a K&N or other filters, it's a dry nanofiber filter. I run one with an outerwear on it, the outerwear does help keep alot of the debris and crud from getting into the filter pleats.
Ok I did the vice grip trick and it seem to have help a lot. I still was not able to go over 21 pounds of boost but that could be cause of other problem. I did the apps reset and took it to a parts store. The code P0216 came up. So with the pedal acting up I would say I need a new IP. The engine also surges a little going down the road when its just crusing. I know it does the dead pedal at random times, but the parts store is 15 miles away, it did not do it. So my other question what are the chances they are both bad or did I probably just hit one of the radom times?
My truck is an 02 and I have it setup with a Quadzilla XZT w/ 3000 tune, 4 inch straight pipe from the turbo back, Amsoil BHAF, Turnbuckled wastegate and thats it. I have 4.11 gearing in my truck with stock sized tires and I pull about 19-20 mpg doing about 65-70 mph with no load. Loaded depending on weight I've seen anywhere from 11-15 mpg. I have no problem pulling 10k lbs with my truck. Only time I had an over heating issue was with the radiator plugging up with the crud. I bought my truck 6 years agowith 36-37k miles and I now have 183k on the original driveline. Only thing i've replaced were on VP44 at 85k, two LPs, sensor or two, and things that wear out like brakes, u joints, ball joints ect... I'm very religious about maintaining my truck and other vehicle/equipment, it's the key to good running machine.
Red3quarter, I'm assuming your truck is an auto with an HY35. 8seconds has a manual with an HX35. I don't believe a J-hook or turnbuckle will work. He needs a boost elbow or to just plug the line off.
8seconds, I never got more boost when I tried the vice-grip thing either. I had to find a bolt that fit into the hose and clamp it off in order to see more boost. If you clamp off your wastegate and still don't see more boost, I'd look for a leak somewhere.. *Edit* I just went back on another forum and found an old post of mine from when I was trying to get my boost up. It seems I DID have to order a boost elbow, as blocking off the wastegate did nothing for me. The jogged my memory a little and I realized that my boost numbers did not increase until after my FASS install, as my stock LP did not provide enough fuel to increase my boost. */edit*
As far as the IP, the P0216 may be a good indicator of a failing IP, but it doesn't necessarily mean the IP is doomed to fail. Before replacing your IP, I would start off with an APPS and see if that helps. I once got it in my head that I needed a new IP, and now I have an IP in my garage wrapped in plastic that has nothing wrong with it because it ended up not being my problem. That was a costly assumption and one that I will avoid again.
8seconds, I never got more boost when I tried the vice-grip thing either. I had to find a bolt that fit into the hose and clamp it off in order to see more boost. If you clamp off your wastegate and still don't see more boost, I'd look for a leak somewhere.. *Edit* I just went back on another forum and found an old post of mine from when I was trying to get my boost up. It seems I DID have to order a boost elbow, as blocking off the wastegate did nothing for me. The jogged my memory a little and I realized that my boost numbers did not increase until after my FASS install, as my stock LP did not provide enough fuel to increase my boost. */edit*
As far as the IP, the P0216 may be a good indicator of a failing IP, but it doesn't necessarily mean the IP is doomed to fail. Before replacing your IP, I would start off with an APPS and see if that helps. I once got it in my head that I needed a new IP, and now I have an IP in my garage wrapped in plastic that has nothing wrong with it because it ended up not being my problem. That was a costly assumption and one that I will avoid again.
Ok I did the vice grip trick and it seem to have help a lot. I still was not able to go over 21 pounds of boost but that could be cause of other problem. I did the apps reset and took it to a parts store. The code P0216 came up. So with the pedal acting up I would say I need a new IP. The engine also surges a little going down the road when its just crusing. I know it does the dead pedal at random times, but the parts store is 15 miles away, it did not do it. So my other question what are the chances they are both bad or did I probably just hit one of the radom times?
0216 is likely a vp, but a bad lp can also cause the same error code if air is entered into the fuel system.
again blue chip's help page is the best resourse
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I don't recall him mentioning he has a 5 or 6 spd but i've been known to over look things. He did say he has a HO but alot of dodge owners I've seen that are new to diesels and the forum say they have a HO cummins. i went fdrom other text I read in the post about j-hooks, figured it was an auto he had.
Well I have the boost eblow on its way. I'll try tying it open, just by putting vice grips on it made a big difference.
I had the lift pump replace around 2000 miles ago. I just found the paper work and it the fass ddrp. I holds 18 to 20 at idle. When I say it does the dead pedal sometimes. It happens a lot but sometimes it does a time or two, then stops. Other times it will do it non stop for a half hour. The only thing I can do to fix it. Is slow to almost to a stop or down shift and get my rpm's way up. It will do it when I first start off too. I have a hill i have to go up leaving my house and I can't get above 2 gear.
It would not be all that bad if all of this happen a good ways apart or I have put 100 + on the truck. But I have only put 27000 miles on it. The truck only 75000 miles. After listen to everyone and reading, I understand the LP and the IP, but the turbo. I have heard plenty of people say I have 150 or 200 thousand and barly done anything but change the oil and put gas in it. I'm just hoping when I get it all fixed, that will be all the big fixes for at less 100,000 more miles or more, and I don't have a lemon.
I had the lift pump replace around 2000 miles ago. I just found the paper work and it the fass ddrp. I holds 18 to 20 at idle. When I say it does the dead pedal sometimes. It happens a lot but sometimes it does a time or two, then stops. Other times it will do it non stop for a half hour. The only thing I can do to fix it. Is slow to almost to a stop or down shift and get my rpm's way up. It will do it when I first start off too. I have a hill i have to go up leaving my house and I can't get above 2 gear.
It would not be all that bad if all of this happen a good ways apart or I have put 100 + on the truck. But I have only put 27000 miles on it. The truck only 75000 miles. After listen to everyone and reading, I understand the LP and the IP, but the turbo. I have heard plenty of people say I have 150 or 200 thousand and barly done anything but change the oil and put gas in it. I'm just hoping when I get it all fixed, that will be all the big fixes for at less 100,000 more miles or more, and I don't have a lemon.
I don't recall him mentioning he has a 5 or 6 spd but i've been known to over look things. He did say he has a HO but alot of dodge owners I've seen that are new to diesels and the forum say they have a HO cummins. i went fdrom other text I read in the post about j-hooks, figured it was an auto he had.
Well I have the boost eblow on its way. I'll try tying it open, just by putting vice grips on it made a big difference.
I had the lift pump replace around 2000 miles ago. I just found the paper work and it the fass ddrp. I holds 18 to 20 at idle. When I say it does the dead pedal sometimes. It happens a lot but sometimes it does a time or two, then stops. Other times it will do it non stop for a half hour. The only thing I can do to fix it. Is slow to almost to a stop or down shift and get my rpm's way up. It will do it when I first start off too. I have a hill i have to go up leaving my house and I can't get above 2 gear.
It would not be all that bad if all of this happen a good ways apart or I have put 100 + on the truck. But I have only put 27000 miles on it. The truck only 75000 miles. After listen to everyone and reading, I understand the LP and the IP, but the turbo. I have heard plenty of people say I have 150 or 200 thousand and barly done anything but change the oil and put gas in it. I'm just hoping when I get it all fixed, that will be all the big fixes for at less 100,000 more miles or more, and I don't have a lemon.
I had the lift pump replace around 2000 miles ago. I just found the paper work and it the fass ddrp. I holds 18 to 20 at idle. When I say it does the dead pedal sometimes. It happens a lot but sometimes it does a time or two, then stops. Other times it will do it non stop for a half hour. The only thing I can do to fix it. Is slow to almost to a stop or down shift and get my rpm's way up. It will do it when I first start off too. I have a hill i have to go up leaving my house and I can't get above 2 gear.
It would not be all that bad if all of this happen a good ways apart or I have put 100 + on the truck. But I have only put 27000 miles on it. The truck only 75000 miles. After listen to everyone and reading, I understand the LP and the IP, but the turbo. I have heard plenty of people say I have 150 or 200 thousand and barly done anything but change the oil and put gas in it. I'm just hoping when I get it all fixed, that will be all the big fixes for at less 100,000 more miles or more, and I don't have a lemon.
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Nope, I think it was post 4 he talked about lugging it and said his ford also has a 6 speed tranny. That tells me he has the manual.
The dead pedal sounds like an APPS to me. If you have a Fass you shouldn't have any problems getting extra boost once your boost elbow arrives. Have you tried resetting your apps?
The dead pedal sounds like an APPS to me. If you have a Fass you shouldn't have any problems getting extra boost once your boost elbow arrives. Have you tried resetting your apps?
If I remember correctly sorry to say po216 is a sure sign of needing a IP. Here is some great info from Blue Chip. http://www.bluechipdiesel.com/vp44diagnostichelp.html
8seconds
you have to tie the gate "closed" that means wrap around the gate arm and tie it off towards the alternator. it is hard to get in there but worth it if your gate is indeed blowing open because of exhaust drive pressure.
you have to tie the gate "closed" that means wrap around the gate arm and tie it off towards the alternator. it is hard to get in there but worth it if your gate is indeed blowing open because of exhaust drive pressure.
you say you have a fass ddrp, and it holds 18-20 at idle, I assume you have the edge sender installed. if so idle pressures are worthless, you need to know if it drops(and how low) when you are at WOT(wide open throttle)
I've seen lots of posts of bad ddrp's and of them failing far too soon
I've seen lots of posts of bad ddrp's and of them failing far too soon
I have not got my fuel pressure under 8 psi and that is putting it to the floor. That is to the best I know, have not drove it much since being on here.
I want to thank everyone that has helped me. I have heard things I didn't want to but at less I know what I need to do. I can replace a part on a my truck but that is easy compaired to knowing what part to replace. I have some hope now. I will keep reading and trying new things. I'm really short on money so it will be some time before I get my IP.
I have two more questions, if I do the reset on the apps and it makes a difference. Does that mean I need a new apps or does reseting it fix the problem? Second one is if the vice grips are not giving me the boost does that mean the boost elbow won't work and I have to ty it shut?
I want to thank everyone that has helped me. I have heard things I didn't want to but at less I know what I need to do. I can replace a part on a my truck but that is easy compaired to knowing what part to replace. I have some hope now. I will keep reading and trying new things. I'm really short on money so it will be some time before I get my IP.
I have two more questions, if I do the reset on the apps and it makes a difference. Does that mean I need a new apps or does reseting it fix the problem? Second one is if the vice grips are not giving me the boost does that mean the boost elbow won't work and I have to ty it shut?
if you do an apps reset it basically just calibrates it. if you need an APPS you will get a code that says the apps has failed, a reset will NOT fix a apps that sets a code.
vicegrips is doing pretty much the samething as a boost elbow, so try tying it shut.
8psi is just under the magic number of 10psi,
what do you have all the edge settings at? if you have max boost set at say 10psi or max egt at 800, your truck will be constantly defueling, double check all your settings to make sure there is nothing set wrong
vicegrips is doing pretty much the samething as a boost elbow, so try tying it shut.
8psi is just under the magic number of 10psi,
what do you have all the edge settings at? if you have max boost set at say 10psi or max egt at 800, your truck will be constantly defueling, double check all your settings to make sure there is nothing set wrong
Ok before I got on the forum, I had the egt set at 1300 and all it does is make noise. It does not shut the truck down, I think I could melt the engine, if I didn't let off it. With vice grips, it runs a lot better but it still will get hot if I leave it on the floor, pulling nothing. Does that mean tying it shut is the only fix
So if i put it to the floor I should still get 10 psi? Sorry that is not boost, its fuel pressure.
So if i put it to the floor I should still get 10 psi? Sorry that is not boost, its fuel pressure.
edge does not "shut down " your truck it defuels which lowers your egt (mine is set to 1400) set your boost to 35psi.
if you pull up your backdown screen it will display a % the higher the number is how much your edge is cutting back power. its very easy to have set the parameters by mistake,
also double tap the enter button and a display will come up and you can set how many mins you want all the safeguards removed, this is a good test to see if all the sudden your truck works better, if it does you have something set wong
if you pull up your backdown screen it will display a % the higher the number is how much your edge is cutting back power. its very easy to have set the parameters by mistake,
also double tap the enter button and a display will come up and you can set how many mins you want all the safeguards removed, this is a good test to see if all the sudden your truck works better, if it does you have something set wong
if your only seeing 10psi of boost you have a leak somewhere, likely intercooler boots, you should see close to 28psi(or more)
post what your readings are at wot
egt
boost
fuel pressure
engine temp
backdown
post what your readings are at wot
egt
boost
fuel pressure
engine temp
backdown



