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What's the difference between a "Dodge" ve pump and an "industrial" pump

Old Apr 26, 2014 | 11:01 AM
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What's the difference between a "Dodge" ve pump and an "industrial" pump

So I have been looking into replacing the vp pump on my 2nd gen when it finally dies with a ve pump. I figured the 1st gen section would be a good place to start with some questions.

I have acquired a ve pump from a forklift with a 5.9 cummins. Will that pump work as a substitute for an actual ve made for the Dodge.

If it can't be used "as is" then can I change it so it can?

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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 01:35 PM
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Wow that's a different direction we are not used to seeing here in the 1st gen section... Going from a P-Pump to a VE.

As for the differences....does it have the AFC top on it? If not then you will need to find a different top for it. that AFC top is what helps with fuel economy, and cruise a variable fuel control.

There might be differences in the deliver valves, and the size of the cam plate inside the IP?
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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Industrial pumps ( there are many) may be governed to run at lower rpms than automotive pumps. They are often designed to run at idle or governed rpms. One or the other without smooth transitions from one rpm to another.
It seems like a lot of work and money to me for something hhat may not work.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 06:31 PM
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What Mark said, you should be able to pick up the correct VE pump quite reasonably right here though.......

Otherwise you will need a pump shop to get it changed over to the correct configuration, would be $$$
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
Wow that's a different direction we are not used to seeing here in the 1st gen section... Going from a P-Pump to a VE.
Nah, he is smart, going from a VP not a pee pump.
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 10:30 PM
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Nah, he is smart, going from a VP not a pee pump.
Ahhh I missed the "V". Your right loosing the VP44 pump is definitely an upgrade!!
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Old Apr 26, 2014 | 10:53 PM
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Where to START on the differences?
Some VEs are constant speed governors, others (like our trucks) are not.
Some have 8, 9, 10 or 11mm plungers, our trucks are 12mm.

Most industrial equipment uses a different throttle lever design.

Contrary to comments posted here, the VP44-to-VE conversion is a more popular and affordable alternative to the P-7100 conversion on the 24 valve engines.

I'm a member on other forums, one of which has had a member that documented putting a VE pump onto a 6.7, with awesome results.

Mark.
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Old Apr 27, 2014 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by thrashingcows
Ahhh I missed the "V". Your right loosing the VP44 pump is definitely an upgrade!!
too missed that.
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