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Vacuum Pump/PS Pump Seal Question

Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:53 AM
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Vacuum Pump/PS Pump Seal Question

I just had a new VE installed, but had an EPIC fuel leak on my old one. It completely soaked my PS/Vacuum pump assembly every time the truck was running for longer than I want to remember. Anyway, the constant fuel saturation has completely ruined the seals in my vac pump and power steering pump, so now I'm leaking a decent amount of oil from the vac pump/ timing case seal and probably from the PS pump/ vac pump seal also (if there's a seal there). Anyway, I need to replace these, but I can't find the right part number for the gasket set from Cummins. I found a number in another site's sticky but when I checked it with Cummins, it turned out to be a different part. The number I have is 4089842. This is incorrect. Anyone have the correct number?

Also, the job looks pretty straightforward. Remove both hoses, unbolt the assembly from timing case, separate the pumps from each other outside the truck, install seals, put them back together, bolt the assy back to the truck. Done. Am I wrong? Also, are there any tricky parts? Like how are the hoses connected to the pump? Are they easy to remove? Are the pumps hard to get apart once you have them off the truck, or do they just pry right apart? Thanks in advance for the help.

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 09:55 AM
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Don't have the part number but you can get it here:

http://www.pdrdiesel.com/products/Do...t-1213-11.html
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:11 AM
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I resealed mine a few months back. It was very simple and took maybe 30 minutes atart to finish, including cleaning and a quick coat of paint. Not a bit of leak since, although it hasnt run much since then.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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This might help, from the sticky...Mark
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:40 AM
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4089742 is the part number. Comes with instructions in the kit from Cummins.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 10:53 AM
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Wow, thanks for all the responses guys. Helps me out more than you know.

And I swear I looked in the sticky for 5 minutes and somehow missed that vac pump link...I amaze myself sometimes.

Also, could you not use gasket maker on it? I know Cummins approved certain types of gasket maker for the front timing cover, but can you do the same for the vac pump?

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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ARbowhunter7
Also, could you not use gasket maker on it? I know Cummins approved certain types of gasket maker for the front timing cover, but can you do the same for the vac pump?
There will be a vacuum pump to timing cover gasket in the kit: http://www.scheiddiesel.com/display_part/2734.php
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 12:57 PM
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I bought a vane and seal kit off ebum for under $30. It has an improved double lip shaft seal that was nice even though mine was leaking from the o-ring in the pump body.
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Old Jul 5, 2011 | 04:52 PM
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Peter Gould sells a vacuum pump rebuild kit containing ALL the seals and O-rings plus the Cummins seal and a DVD of how to rebuild the pump. He even includes some short lengths of PVC to drive out the old seals. Find him at:

http://www.fixinrams.com/

I used his kit and highly recommend it.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by james1
Peter Gould sells a vacuum pump rebuild kit containing ALL the seals and O-rings plus the Cummins seal and a DVD of how to rebuild the pump. He even includes some short lengths of PVC to drive out the old seals. Find him at:

http://www.fixinrams.com/

I used his kit and highly recommend it.
That is the one I got.
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Old Jul 6, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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x3 on Pete Gould's kit. And if I hadn't broken the oil pressure sender while putting the pumps back on the engine I would have been done a lot sooner! So be smarter than me and watch that thing.
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 10:41 AM
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Resurrecting this old thread to ask if this kit fill fix a lack of vacuum? I don't have oil leak or grinding, just no vacuum. Thanks
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 08:48 PM
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I would also like to know this ^^^^^ as mines getting weak
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Old Mar 24, 2012 | 11:03 PM
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I know this is an old thread but thought I'd let others know that Geno's Garage sells the Gould reseal kits for $60 with the instructional DVD and Cummins gasket.
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