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TST KDP and seal kit

Old Apr 13, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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TST KDP and seal kit

I should be receiving my KDP repair kit today, the only issue being that I ordered the kit for '94 to whatever because I didn't see one specifically for the 1st gens. I am assuming it's that same though, anyone know for sure????
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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No they are not the same, the first gen is a steped design and the 2nd gen is a flat plate. This is a first gen. The rest of the kit is the same though and you could make your own tab.


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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 04:12 PM
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Or you can just bend up a piece of heavy coat-hanger wire like so ~



And slip that boy in there like this and be done with it ~



Some have been successful at simply using a punch to displace a bit of metal adjacent to the pins hole.

What ever works.



Don't forget to check the other timing case bolts while you're in there.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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Thanks for the advice guys, I'll make my own.
I'm an idiot!
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:04 AM
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I'm gonna use a center punch and a BFH if I ever get around to doing mine.

We don't need no stinkin' kits...
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace
I'm gonna use a center punch and a BFH if I ever get around to doing mine.
We don't need no stinkin' kits...
Oh, a tough guy huh? I thought the same thing, but I never got around to it, and now my case is leaking like a sieve. Thought the kit would motivate me.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 12:26 PM
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i really need to do mine as well, i think ill just do the clothes hanger
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 06:01 PM
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This is probably a stupid question but can that dowel pin work out the other way?Do I understand that the deal with the pin is it works out an falls into the gears and engine dies a horrible death? How often does this happen?
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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No, the hole in the block is blind. It can only fall out the front.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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If you are going in to the front case be sure to address the 5 bolts that hold the front case to the engine - one of which is the KDP bolt shown in the picture. I've seen the damage they can cause when they come out - just as bad as the KDP.

Bob
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Bob Beauchaine
If you are going in to the front case be sure to address the 5 bolts that hold the front case to the engine - one of which is the KDP bolt shown in the picture. I've seen the damage they can cause when they come out - just as bad as the KDP.
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Actually the case bolts are the reason I am doing this in the first place. The case is leaking badly, and the outer bolts were loose, so I am assuming the inner case bolts are loose causing the leaks. I intend to pull them out, clean them and loctite them.

In a side note, I may jump the pump gear a tooth while I am in there.

Wouldn't loctite also work for the dowel pin?
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by mhuppertz
Wouldn't loctite also work for the dowel pin?
With the proper cleaning of all involved surfaces prior to applying, I don't know why not.

The pins job is to resist shear forces. As such, we don't really have to worry about any thing pulling on the pin (tensional forces).

As long as there's a good tight fit of the pin, you should be good to go.
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