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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 08:55 PM
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steering shaft pulled out

Take a look at the pics below. Anyone see this before, whats the easiest way to do fix this. I installed the borgeson steering shaft in the fall not many miles on it don't drive the truck to often.



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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 10:12 PM
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Your set screw came loose on the shaft letting the upper shaft come out. Or you didn't watch for that when you installed the borg shaft.

The upper shaft is made to collapse on impact. Which means the lower shaft holds it in place.
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Old Feb 11, 2017 | 02:48 PM
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I removed the set screw under the boot and pushed the shaft back up. I took out the lock washer and applied medium strength loctite. I can't move the shaft now but I thought I read somewhere that the shaft is suppose to move? When I have time their is hours and hours of reading searching through the posts.
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 04:15 PM
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The Borgeson shaft was / is known for collapsing on itself from the setscrew not holding properly. This was documented years ago by several members including BobVA. Search his name and you will find his thread. He was almost killed when the shaft fell completely out. Luckily he wasn't traveling fast and coasted to the side of the road.

The factory shafts in trucks have a collapsible system with plastic, or aluminum pins which allow the steering assembly to compress in a high speed offset accident where you hit something that pushes the steering gear upwards towards the driver. Borgeson was required to do the same to prevent lawsuits where drivers were injured or killed by the steering column being pushed into the cab through a rigid intermediate shaft design (in theory) if they sold solid, non collapsing shaft.

For me, the idea that the intermediate shaft is going to launch by upper column into me isn't an issue, as if I hit anything that hard with a 1992 engineered rusty old truck, I've got bigger concerns than that steering column, as the precise impact required to skewer me is nearly impossible.

In my truck, I have a jeep Chevy c10 combination shaft in there, and once I had the length I needed to keep all straight, I drilled through both shafts joining them together with a grade 2 screw, preventing collapse unless a huge impact is experienced. A brass bolt or shear pin will work as well.

Not advising you to do the same, just telling you what worked for me.
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Old Feb 12, 2017 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by NJTman
The Borgeson shaft was / is known for collapsing on itself from the setscrew not holding properly. This was documented years ago by several members including BobVA. Search his name and you will find his thread. He was almost killed when the shaft fell completely out. Luckily he wasn't traveling fast and coasted to the side of the road.
how do we get that guy back!?!
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 01:43 PM
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Thanks guys going keep an eye on it now.
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Old Feb 16, 2017 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by curt234
Thanks guys going to an eye on it now.
Yea it only takes one time and you learn to look at it every time you open the hood.

Its happened to about everyone with a borg shaft.
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 03:26 PM
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Yea it only takes one time and you learn to look at it every time you open the hood.

Its happened to about everyone with a borg shaft.
Ditto - To make it easier for me to check, I marked the shaft with a white enamel paint pen. I check the mark on the shaft as part of my pre-trip inspection.
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 07:19 PM
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How are we suppose to get the pi s out of the upper and lower shaft couplers?

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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 10:58 PM
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Roll pin on the lower. Only comes out one direction.

Upper is probably the same, but haven't dealt with that end before.
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Old Jul 21, 2024 | 11:09 PM
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Ahh, ill try to hit then from the other side tomorrow. Much appreciated.
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Old Jul 22, 2024 | 08:47 AM
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I haven't had a Borgeson shaft fail on me yet knock on wood. Beware removing the upper joint pin, the joint retains that big spring that holds the lower steering column bushing in place. It is a real PITA fighting that spring to get it all back together.
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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by cougar
I haven't had a Borgeson shaft fail on me yet knock on wood. Beware removing the upper joint pin, the joint retains that big spring that holds the lower steering column bushing in place. It is a real PITA fighting that spring to get it all back together.
Yeah the upper pin/spring I see. Got it off though. The bottom one is a pain in the but. Turns out the alignment is off on my truck. the pin in the lower one is angled toward my sway bar and front leaf. Without a steering shaft in im hoping I can jack up the front end by the axle on both sides and turn the wheels to get better access to the pin
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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Oran
Turns out the alignment is off on my truck.
Alignment? There is only adjustment for toe, and you can set that with a tape measure and some trial/error.
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Old Jul 23, 2024 | 12:47 PM
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Yeah its the toe. Have 1 wheel perfectly straight, the other is slightly toe out, and the im assuming factory slip joint on the steering box is angled so that I can't get to the pin straight. I've done rough tie rod adjustments on an old chevy before, if it's more or less the same I'm comfortable messing with it later. I just wanna get the steering shaft done so I can drive it again. I'm already thinking I'll likely have to cut it to fit. The new one looks a little long
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