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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 08:32 AM
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might also look into putting some pads on the ends of the longer leafs like newer rigs have. Cuts the friction and makes the work nicer.
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Old Mar 15, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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"I wonder if anybody here has used the Kelderman (?) rear set up.It's extemely pricey ."

I just finished installing a set of Kelderman rear bags - I have the fronts to do yet. Yes, they are pricey new, I picked mine up right here on the good ol' DTR classifieds from Swampthang.
I like'em! Takes the "hard" out of the knocks.

Easy to install - once you get the 16-year-old rusted bolts out of the spring eyes.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 08:22 AM
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Bob, I want a ride in that thing next time we meet. I've been thinking about the Keldermann setup for quite a while.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 09:51 AM
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i went to their web site the rear is the one that mounts at the rear most end of the back leaf spring?
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by farmer0_1
i went to their web site the rear is the one that mounts at the rear most end of the back leaf spring?
yup, that's the one
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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cool like to know what you think in a few months/thousand miles. i saw it for sale and sure wanted it.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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I don't really like the Keldermann setup. I think you would be better off doing what Jim did, or doing a traditional link setup with bags. I don't see the point of spending that much money while retaining the leaves.

Edit: I am sure you got a good deal on that kit used and I would have probably jumped on it myself for the right price. I am just saying that new, I don't see the value in the system over other options for the price.

-Steve
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 02:03 PM
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"I don't see the point of spending that much money while retaining the leaves. "

They are expensive new. I was about two weeks away from beginning to fab'em up from scratch and pictures - even have a brand new pair of firestone bags to start, but Jason's ad changed the course of things in that regard - and he patiently waited for me to gather up the garbonzos.

The fronts appear to work as some of you guys are talking about - take the weight off the leaf springs and run on the airbag. Load up and you're back down on steel. I'll let you know when I get'em on. I'll try to post some pics when the weather warms up.

The beauty of the design on the rear corners is that when running light, you're riding on air, and you can adjust the ride to your liking with a simple pressure adjustment. When you load up, you can up the pressure and the leaves begin to do what they do best - carry WEIGHT.

I like having things redundant and multi-purpose. I even have a skylift bucket that I bolt to the flatbed when doing high work around the farm, like the high gables of the barn and 2 1/2 story house on a hillside - pretty far up on the low side. It all keeps the wife-approval-factor up. (Honey look what my wonderful truck can do now! )
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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bbrown i have had an old utility manlift that i bolt to my gooseneck for a good 15 years now. i just bolt it to the deck and add water ballast. this was a 20ft plus eve hay barn we built from scratch at my brothers hay farm in central ore. we didn't use a ladder for more than an hour on the whole job. sorry for getting sidetracked.
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by farmer0_1
bbrown i have had an old utility manlift that i bolt to my gooseneck for a good 15 years now. i just bolt it to the deck and add water ballast. this was a 20ft plus eve hay barn we built from scratch at my brothers hay farm in central ore. we didn't use a ladder for more than an hour on the whole job. sorry for getting sidetracked.

It just goes to show you - there are very few new ideas - just new people to think them up. That 's what these forums are for!

Idea for a new thread - "Hey Look What My Truck Can Do!?!"
Now back to the original thread - and it rides good too!
Bob
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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just wanted to show you great minds think alike!!!! hope nobody ask what my last mistake is or was or ..
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Old Mar 16, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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I own a 89 W350 that my uncle purchaced new. He was in the scrap metal business and put one bad rear suspension upgrade on it. when I picked up the truck the rear sus. was not working, needless to say I had to go to the ciropractor the next day. After I found the loose wire and fixed it I pumped up the bag and boy it rode so much nicer. Now I always have it pumped up. Here are som pics. (I hope)

Maybe it wasn't custom made (or maybe he made more than one)


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1992-...QQcmdZViewItem


edit:

Free89w350's pic:



Ebay add pic:

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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by wannadiesel
Bob, I want a ride in that thing next time we meet. I've been thinking about the Keldermann setup for quite a while.
i bought my kelderman 2 bag set up back in 1990 and it was the best thing i ever did for the truck and my back . back then it was $1200 must be pricey now
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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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Kelderman Love-Fest

The air bag front suspension system for our trucks:
http://www.keldermanairride.com/prod...hp?id=93DDGFRT
$899.00

The two bag system for the rear of our trucks:
http://www.keldermanairride.com/prod...p?id=93DDGREAR
$949.00

The full price list:
http://www.keldermanairride.com/pdf/...ice%20List.pdf

Instalation would be extra, and does not include any on board air stuff. Jason said he had about 2800 in the set. He didn't charge me quite that much.

We had a fresh foot of white stuff last night, I spent most of the day today in the truck, and with just the rear bags on at this point, all I can say is SMOOTH
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheBigNasty
You can get a 4 link setup for the rear minus bags for $600 from truckinsuspension.com.


truckinsuspension.com
AIM.com

are both the same company and they are no good making low quality products, not backing their products, and having horrible un-knowledgeable phone operators.

I ordered a set of rear leafs that sagged out really bad, (just on one side)
and they were blaming me for it...and the people/boss/manager was on the phone cussing at me, whatever happened the to customer is always right?

just my .02 ill save my cash and give it to a better company...
and that doesnt include skyjacker either, although they are a better, more composed company than AIM/Truckinsuspension.
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