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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 09:20 AM
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Plow pump on first gen

I have a plow on a 79? 3/4 ton. The hydraulics are powered by a steering pump on the passenger side with skinny belt. I want to put this where the a/c would mount on my cummins. I need a lead on a serpentine pully, compatable with my cummins that would fit on the pump. I intend on modifying some mounting brackets. Otherwise, what would it take to have my exhisting pump power the hydraulics. Somebody asked about this last year, but I can't find it.

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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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You might also want to check out

www.plowsite.com

that is strictly a Plow site for many trucks. great spot.
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Old Jan 6, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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I dont know if this helps any, but the kit for the DEWEZE Ranch beds that use hydraulics to lift round bales use a belt driven pump that mounts above the injection pump onto the intake plenum on our year models
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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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Thanks guys, iv'e been away the last couple days for a death in the family.

Monty, I'll try searching the web today, do you know of a link by chance?

So far, I've spent the entire day searching for a serpentine pully to put on a conventional steering pump. UTL. Tractor supply has a hydraulic pump for $176, again, I would have to find a pully, all they stock are v-belts. Everybody has been telling me, tapping into the steering would interfere with the brake system. I thaought of driving the pump with a used starter motor. A local starter rebuilder advised they turned slower, and probably wouldn't operate the hydraulics well.

One of the local Napa's supply Western plow parts. They had some drive motors in stock, problem is all the shafts are recessed, and notched instead of using a keyway. Nothing in the book showed a shaft coming out either. I picked it up for a try anyway for about $75.

Last night I made some brackets to attach the pump and motor face to face. I sacrificed an allen wrench, grinding one end to fit in the notch on the motor shaft, and the hex side to fit into the pump shaft. I plan to mount them to an inner fender. The motor hasn't been run yet, so it should be able to go back if anybody has a better idea.

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Don
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 03:03 AM
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Im guessing you have a 79 Dodge truck with a plow. Im not sure about the shaft on the Dodge pumps and what they are compatible with. I hate to use the "F" word but Ford pulleys on their power steering pumps can be innerchanged from the 60s to the 90s. I can take a serpintine pulley of an 80s or 90s Ford and put it on a 60s pump and vise versa. I would check out the late model Dodge trucks with 318s and 360s and see what kind of pumps and pulleys they are using. You may be able to use a pulley or whole pump off a late model Dodge to fabricate to your Dodge CTD. The most important thing to look at is how many grooves are in pulleys on your Dodge CTD and get the same for your powersteering pump.
I hope this can send you in a positive direction.
Frosty
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:52 AM
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Thanks Frosty, I'll have to use that for a back up plan. I'm already well into the electric, drive motor conversion. So far, it looks like it's gonna work ok.


Next question...... the motor is grounded with the mounts. I have a battery cable to go from battery to a solenoid. A push button, starter switch and a wire to the solenoid, and another battery cable. Do I connect the second cable from the solonoid to motor? I never really picked up how a solonoid funtions. Also, how about an inline fuse?

I like thgat plow site, but can't join up til I get back up to the cabin so I can use E-mail.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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Here ya go. http://www.deweze.com/products/hydraulics/index.html
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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Thanks Monty,

I like that round bail loader too. I'll have to call them monday.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:08 AM
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Yeah, they are nice but pretty pricey. We are running the model 660 right now. Real handy since you can carry 2 at a time, especially when you have to feed out in some pastures 20 miles from the barn.
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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hey i have aelectric over hydrulic pump, lift cylinder, and outlets for western plow dont know specs, but it worked great last time i used it if you run into major problems i part with it.

jed
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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 08:59 PM
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A new set up runs $1500 from most brand names I've checked, which is why I'm trying the cheap road, but I sent you a PM.
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