I had my new tires put on the truck today. BFG commercial T/A's. Anyhow I was not there my dad took the truck there for me. When they went to go torque the lug nuts down they were not torquing with there wrench. Long story short they replace all the lug nuts for 1 dollar each all 32. I was kind of held hostage but it was still the best price in town. Anyhow the lug nuts they put on are chrome plated and are closed not like the nuts where the lug passes thru. Are these ok? Do lug nuts have to have a certian load rating or anything or is a lug nut a lug nut? I'm off on a 300 mile trip tonight so i will really get to break them in. I hope the balance job is good.

 

i would find oem lugs no matter the cost or look seen to many tires come off due to wrong lugs i work in a tire shop part time and balance wise run her about 40 to 60 if there is any thing that was not there before take it back and stand over them

 

The lug nuts on these trucks are wierd. the ones on the back have the taper to center the wheel, but the ones on the front dont. If you look in your owners manual it will tell you to use two nuts from the back to center a front wheel, than tighten the other 6. This way you get your front wheels centered on the hub. IDK why dodge just didn't put tapered nuts on all of the wheels but that is how it is.

I would go to a junk yard and get some oem nuts, if you can find 32 back lug nuts you'd be set.


Coop

 

i really don't see the problem with the closed chrome plated ones. i switched one of my trucks to them. as long as the thread pattern is the same and they are deep enough what's the problem? and both of my trucks came with tapered lugs (the 92 has been in the family since new so i know they haven't changed) and the 91, when i bought it some retard had put the tapered lugs on backwards! actually hurt the rim, makes it a pain in the rear to get off over the axle shafts.

 

I got lug nuts at UAP/NAPA for not very much. ... got eight and left two on each wheel so I'd not have to go looking for "two" lug nuts every time I put wheels on. Anyone figure out a way to center the inside duallies?

 

The rear duals interlock so if the outside one is centered then the inside one "should" move with it.

 

wait.....there are different lugnuts for the front vs rear?

 

No, they are the same.

 

All of the 1st Gens are stud centered wheels, not hub centered wheels. Right??? Whats going on here?? I was told a general rule of thumb is thread engagement should be as great as fastener diameter, so on a half inch stud you should have a half inch of threads engaged so as long as your new lug nuts are deep enough you should have no prob.

 

The dually trucks are a little "different". The big flanged lug nuts needed to support the wheel do nothing to center it, so you have to use cone shaped nuts to center the wheel before installing the regular nuts.

See also: https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...s-t248980.html

 

Ok, I thought we were referring to the 3/4 ton in MoparMarvs sig. Dually's were different and a pain in the can when I worked in th tire shop.

 

there's an "index" pin on the rear drum that should center the inner wheel. hence, lug-centric. the outer, of course, would need the conical lug nut trick on 2 of the studs.

 

No, that's just to encourage the tire monkeys to put the valvestems 180 degrees out. Won't do a thing to center the wheels.

 

That's what I thought, .... I slid a bit of small braided steel wire between the hub and inner dually at 12 o'clock to try to even it out, but hoo nose how close I got. Anyhow centering the wheels I could made a large improvement in driveability. I beat a pair of radials apart (delaminated I think) in about 40,000 kms and they shook the whole time, balanced repeatedly to no avail. Now I know why. I now have some real good radials in front and am quite sure they'll last now that they're on right, .... many thanks wanna