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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 11:07 PM
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Due to two months of constant rain, and to having more pressing matters to attend to during the few less-rainy moments, I just this evening got around to "SUMMERIZING" our trucks.

I removed the winter-time fan-clutches and installed the summertime "pinned" direct-drive clutches.

I love to hear the fans over the roar of the engine, sounding like a turbo-jet winding up; it sure is reassuring to know that the fan is doing it's optimum-best, with no wimpy clutch to slow it down.

I also remembered to close the ball-valve in the heater-hose of my truck, thus stopping the flow of HOT coolant into the IN-CAB air system.

The wife's truck has some kind of vacuum-operated gizmo that is supposed to stop the flow of coolant into the heater-core.

My understanding is that, when A/C is selected, a vacuum signal tells this valve to close.

How do I know if this vacuum valve is functioning ??

Can I see it operate, while someone in the cab operates the switch ??

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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BearKiller
Can I see it operate, while someone in the cab operates the switch ??

Thanks.
Yes but only on "max" AC
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 12:52 PM
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BK,

Do you have any pics of your manual valve ? I think I am going to go that route on mine.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 12:57 PM
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What does MAX A/C do different from A/C ?
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 01:15 PM
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What does MAX A/C do different from A/C ?
Turns off the coolant valve, and recirculates the air from the cab instead of pulling outside air.
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BearKiller
I removed the winter-time fan-clutches and installed the summertime "pinned" direct-drive clutches.

Does that kill your fuel mileage?
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Old Jun 23, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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BK,

Do you have any pics of your manual valve ? I think I am going to go that route on mine.
Sorry, no pictures yet.

This is on my Ford/Cummins; and, due to differences in engine-bay design, I didn't utilize the steel coolant tubes; but instead, in the upper hose position, I installed a pipe nipple in that port, then an elbow, then another nipple, then ball-valve, then 5/8-barb into the hose.

The valve is immediately behind and above the alternator.

On the wife's ALL DODGE/Cummins truck, I am going to take one of the steel tubes that I didn't use on my truck, cut it in two, splice in a ball-valve, paint it nice and pretty, then replace the tube on her truck with the valved tube.

That silly vacuum-gate may or may not work; I KNOW whether or not the ball-valve is working.




Originally Posted by GasganoFJ60
Does that kill your fuel mileage?

On all of our trucks, I can feel no loss of power and no noticable change in mileage whatsoever.

If the engine can muscle sixteen big Charolais cows up Russell Creek Hill and not take a short breath, it isn't gonna notice a silly little old fan.
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 07:22 PM
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did you fab those pinned clutches?
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Old Jun 24, 2009 | 09:58 PM
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did you fab those pinned clutches?

YES SIR, I did.

The first clutch I ever pinned was on an old gas-burner Bronco.

At that time, I did not know there was such a thing as an un-permanently-connected fan.

The fan quit turning and the engine started heating up; a replacement fan-clutch cost more than I paid for the Bronco, so I thought my way through the dilemna, drilled entirely through the clutch-housing, installed a Grade-8 bolt/nut, and it was still running like that ten years later when I finally let someone else have it.


When the shop that completely rebuilt the entire A/C system on the wife's truck installed the fourth NAPA fan-clutch in two days time, I told them to dig the old one out of the dumpster, I took it home, drilled/tapped four holes through the face, loc-tited and safety-wired Grade-8 bolts that pressed the internals firmly together, stuck it on the engine, and problem solved for good.

The guys at the A/C shop were amazed.
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