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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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Improved rear drum brakes? Front upgrades?

Hi all, i'm wondering if there is an improvement that can be made to the rear drums on our trucks like the newer 94+ by adding a new part from the gm trucks ( forget what the part's called)?

How about upgrading the front brakes-is there anything else out there that's bolt on that came on a newer/different truck that would improve over what i have now?

I know you could prep the breaks with better pads, rotors and possibly lines, but i'm talking about larger calipors or maybe a twin piston calipor that would bolt on from napa.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 12:42 AM
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you can change the slaves to 1ton and it helps a bunch but you need to keep them adjusted right.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 03:06 AM
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Just ask any parts store for wheel cylinders for a 78 1 ton gm.direct swap and awsome brakes.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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So is this a direct bolt in swap for a 93 w250 with a dana 70 single axle or do you need to modify anything to make it work? Also, about what does this cost for parts generally?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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i used dodge 1 ton slaves for my 90.the slaves were 1/8" larger and bolted right in no mods just needed to get the brake line to fit (bend just a little) i think the slaves were in the $25 range not sure any more
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rebal
i used dodge 1 ton slaves for my 90.the slaves were 1/8" larger and bolted right in no mods just needed to get the brake line to fit (bend just a little) i think the slaves were in the $25 range not sure any more
Must be gettin old rebal... But you are right.

They are like $12 each.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Sounds like a pretty cheap upgrade. Might have to try this out before making up my mind on a disc swap.
What year/model/make do i order for?
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:00 PM
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While you're in there, change to the 3" brake shoes. 3/4 tons have 2.5" shoes. You will have to have your drums turned to remove the ridge, but it's a straight bolt-on.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by serious
Sounds like a pretty cheap upgrade. Might have to try this out before making up my mind on a disc swap.
What year/model/make do i order for?
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Just tell them its a "99" GMC 1 ton. Make up the rest. They are all the same.
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 09:42 PM
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Direct bolt on with the 1 ton gm. no bends, no new lines. 21 buck's for a big
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Old Mar 14, 2006 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by timb
Direct bolt on with the 1 ton gm. no bends, no new lines. 21 buck's for a big
My F-350 DRW Dana 70 already has 3" brakes.

Is the GM 1-ton wheel-cylinder bigger/better than what I already have??

I have never heard of this upgrade before.

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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 12:38 AM
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If you have 3" brake shoes its a good chance you already have the larger cylinders.

The D70 used in the Dodges is the same for the 3/4 and 1 ton trucks as far as the drums go. The 250's use 2.5' where the 350's had 3". The only ones that are different are some of the late 80's 2x4's. When you get brake parts just get the parts for a 350 series truck with the 5500 lb rear axle in the same year as yours. Turn the ridge out of the drums for the 3" shoes or get new drums. The MC's are the same for both setups and don't forget the small parts package.

The upgrade works pretty well if the ABS is good. Not as good as the 3rd gens but quite a bit better than stock.
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Old Mar 15, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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do you run into any problems with the rears locking up to easily if you are not loaded down in the rear?

My abs has never engaged so I don't think it works. The light is not on though so maybe it has been unhooked already before I bought the truck.
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