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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:16 PM
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offroad fuel

Talking to people locally I get mixed responses. Is dyed diesel really bad for a motor or is it the same as regular dieles just a lot cheaper.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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I dont think its bad for the motor, just illegal to run on the steet.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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I know its illegal not really an issue where I live, half the trucks around here are diesels and they all have slip tanks most all run off road. I just heard that the dye that is used can gum up the motor. My buddy swears up and down that its why he had to have his powerstroke rebuilt. Said it was all gummed up inside when they pulled the heads.
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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The powerstroke had to be rebuilt because its a powerstroke. The dye does nothing except color the fuel for identification. If gum up from the red fuel was the case, then why wouldnt all the off-road equipment gum up as well?

Its cheaper because it has no road tax added to the price. You can run it with no engine problems what so ever. Just watch out for the dippers
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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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thanks
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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Ran the red stuff in my ctd for a little moe than 3 years while stationed at Ft.Stewart, GA. Now here in Germany I don't worry, the diesel here is way better than the states.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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I work for the state, all of our diesel rigs run on red fuel legally. Many have over 200k without seeing anything but red.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 12:16 PM
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dyed fuel

I know somebody who works for the state. Ya think I can run red then?
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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"Yeah Beavis, he said red fuel, thats cool and stuff!!!"
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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i heard that it was actually better for the trucks because the red fuel actually has a higher sulpher content therefore lubricating the entire fuel system better than the taxed stuff. has anyone else heard this?
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Yea, ive seen some off-road tanks that say "off-road fuel-high sulpher" on the side.
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Old Oct 27, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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Well it isn't the sulfur which lubes the fuel system up, but the opposite is true. When the sulfur is removed so is the lubricant from the fuel. This problem will soon be posed for us dieselers, by the end of 2005 I believe we will be running on a good mix of ULSD (ultra low sulfur diesel). Hopefully nothing bad happens when switching over. Some areas are already running 100% ULSD.

I read before on an austrialian site that had tips for winterizing your fuel if your fuel station doesn't do it for you. They said to mix 75% diesel with 25% fuel oil. This implies that fuel oil is actually thinner?!
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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i heard running that stuff on the street has a heavy price tag of about 10,000 dollars.
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Old Oct 28, 2004 | 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by FANZDSLPWR
i heard running that stuff on the street has a heavy price tag of about 10,000 dollars.
It varies by state.
Most I've heard of is $1000 plus $100 per gallon of tank capacity so on a big rig it could exceed $10,000. Many states charge different for a first offence then more after that. Nevada only charges 42¢ gallon, the same the fuel would have cost if you had paid the tax plus $100.
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Old Oct 29, 2004 | 12:27 PM
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In the People's Republik of Kalifornia it is a major fine too and the Highway Patrol will check frequently with commercial rigs and obvious farm trucks, since farmers can buy it easily.
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