just wasted the headgasket.

It may as well be a hound dog with its tongue hanging out.


It was my 1st official, for real tromp on the truck with the Adrenaline. Wasn't even flat out yet, 3/4 throttle, didn't see the boost display but maybe saw a 60 flash, was too busy trying to keep it straight in the middle of Deerfoot. coated the entire engine compartment.

Just spewing coolant, or oil too? You did pretty good with twins though, surprised it made it this long to be honest.

I've got a cometic gasket in the basement thats calling your name.[redface]

I didn't see any coolant........there was too much oil on everything to even see what color parts were. The gasket wasted at the very front edge of the head.

cometic you say.......can you/I use that with o-rings? or is it meant to be without? being a stacked steel type?

Dude...you better get rid of that black cloud over your truck.I'm going to check out the new PA on the south side.I will call you and stop by..

cool ok, I have to meet the tow driver sometime to move my truck, not sure what time.

Cometic is supposed to be an alternative to o-rings, but hasn't proved to successful. I've been meaning to call cometic to return it, but have been lazy, and am guessing they won't take it back after about 4 months. But if you want to give it a shot, let me know.

thanks but no, Aaron @ CT is getting my head to work over. I';ll use a thick Cummins gasket.

You have to wait and see what those injectors really have left for ya? I got that old HX-40 of your apart. The turbine housing will fit right on my new HX-40's that I got. So I might have to break one in prior to running the garrett. That turbine bearing was shot. It will make a good spare parts turbo. What kinda of egt's did you see?[duhhh]

not too too high with those on IIRC........


I believe this truck will be edited by admin retarded once all the boost and fuel stay in the hole........

You using a new head or using you're old one? I know Peak has a 24v fresh sitting in the their shop. The head gasket isn't to difficult of a job, you just have to get the block in decent shape. I was sizing up putting on a new 24v head that I've found at peak performance but still needs some extra stuff for me. Heavy springs (4000+ rpms springs, titinum retainers) and ports are hogged out to the max. So its on my wish list. I still have a sweet 24v stock core on my bench if you want a head. It has to be cleaned up abit. I must crazy I just bought a gearbox cover for a 12v engine.

thanks but no, Aaron @ CT is getting my head to work over. I';ll use a thick Cummins gasket.

Thats going to be my plan when its time for it to be done. Hopefully this summer, but that has been a phrase I've uttered numerous other times as well.

maybe tommorrow I'll call Peak as well for a competitive price check.........

You can use my head and get it o-ringed. Leave your's together until you get the head back or when time premits. I Just need a core as using mine for mock on twins, so it doesn't have to be any good of a core. You just clean the old head prior to dropping it off. Its an option, as the valves aren't sunk and I can't see any cracks. I personnel rather have a new head, as they are a lot cheaper than you think to buy new. The head casting are really bad regardless which way you go. If you driven your truck hard (high coolant temps and high egt's) your valves and seats might be in rough shape. Get the head decked and have the machine shop document how much material they shave off. You might have to get a custom head gasket. If you had the time, and money, you could deck the block and get it true and straight. Old high mileage blocks are prone to wrappage. I'm planning on machining the block during the engine overhaul that I'm planning. As far as I know, no body has a decking plate for these motors. You could get one built but its will cost an arm.

Hey Mike thats awesome, I think I'll take you up on that. I'll send that one to CT get it cut and when its done do the R&R all at once. I'll bring you the Vp core back to from Jay. I'll give you a call.


You can use my head and get it o-ringed. Leave your's together until you get the head back or when time premits. I Just need a core as using mine for mock on twins, so it doesn't have to be any good of a core. You just clean the old head prior to dropping it off. Its an option, as the valves aren't sunk and I can't see any cracks. I personnel rather have a new head, as they are a lot cheaper than you think to buy new. The head casting are really bad regardless which way you go. If you driven your truck hard (high coolant temps and high egt's) your valves and seats might be in rough shape. Get the head decked and have the machine shop document how much material they shave off. You might have to get a custom head gasket. If you had the time, and money, you could deck the block and get it true and straight. Old high mileage blocks are prone to wrappage. I'm planning on machining the block during the engine overhaul that I'm planning. As far as I know, no body has a decking plate for these motors. You could get one built but its will cost an arm.

Tate, are you trying to pawn that Cometic head gasket off on one of the boys???[laugh][laugh] Demon, my next motor work will be done by CT. The boys at PDR did a great job but shipping to BC was expensive and they took way too long. Aaron is minutes away and is a good guy. How much is he charging you for everything??

Aaron is putting an actual quote together for me right now, but it was looking like $700 for deck and o-rings, $150 for thick cummins gasket, and whatever HD springs and a valve job add to it.

wasted the HD in 3 spots............blew the front of #1 cyl right out the front of the engine. and #2-3 and #3-4 were cross communicating.

all the holes look good cept #3 has 1 single scratch in it on the major thrust side. #6 has a couple minor scuffs. all holes still have pretty good cross hatch though.


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I'll clean it up better, have a better look and check deck flatness.

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Tate, are you trying to pawn that Cometic head gasket off on one of the boys???[laugh][laugh]

Trying, but its not going so well. [laugh] Even if someone wanted it, I don't think I'd sell it anyway. One more souvenir to hang up on the wall I guess.

Luke, you definitely did a number on that one. How much oil was left in the pan after that? Atleast you got a little bit of rust proofing going on under there. I did my undercarriage in the summer with the PS pump gasket.

In the sump.......not very much http://www.4wheeler.ca/style_emoticons/default/glare.gif



in the radiator......lots


on the engine.......lots


on deerfoot..........lots

[laugh][laugh] I've got a 12v head sitting on my garage floor if anyone needs a core for rebuild. It is the original head from my truck took it off at 325,000km's, nothing wrong with it, just got a new one at the time for a real good price.

wasted the HD in 3 spots............blew the front of #1 cyl right out the front of the engine. and #2-3 and #3-4 were cross communicating.

Yours at least looks better than this one.
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That's cyl #1 but #6 looked identical.[coffee]

At least you got a good kill on the head gasket. Congrats bud. Did you enjoy removing the studs out of the back of the head by the firewall? I bet you cursed abit.
This weekend I'm trying to put in my transmission. Right now the only thing stopping me is crummy tranny jack I rented. The jack minimum height is 8in. To put the transmission in the truck, your truck has to be jacked up 2 foot off the ground just to get it under the truck. Who build a jack with such a high minimum height is beyond me. Most guys who use floor transmission jack don't have hoists and usually work on the floor of their garage.

Just slide it under and throw it up in there Mike come on what's wrong with you [laugh]

I've thought about doing just that. I have to get bigger ramps. The transmission is so darn heavy you can't pick it up under the truck. The tranny is about 160 to 200 lbs and the converter is around 80-100 lbs. In my younger years, I wouldn't even need a tranny jack.[duhhh]

Any updates Luke? You get all of the coolant out those cylinders yet? I found that my DTT flex plate didn't fit to well to my crankshaft. Its together. By the weekend there could be smoke in the hills over Airdrie. HEY YAH I might be a little excited.[coffee]

No updates yet still waiting on the head from CT and hot pipe and both turbo hot housings from ceramic coating.

Where you getting the coating done at?

getting the ceramic "titanium" one color only no options, but guaranteed to 2000*


http://www.topguncoatings.com/

Just near McKnight and deerfoot.

Nice stuff bud, you should also get your exhaust manifold done as well. I'm planning on getting mine done for the new set of twins. My truck is together, I just have to add tranny fluid. Its been awhile since I heard her purr.

I will, when I get a new manifold. this one still has th e stand pipe welded into from the external wastegate. when I get a new one it'll get coated before it ever gets put on. so hopefully it keep the underhood temps way down.

What kind of flange is on that manifold for the wastegate? Or, what kind of wastegate was on there? I'm gonna be running eithere a 38mm or 44mm Tial on mine, ones a flange, the others a v-band. So I either need a pipe welded onto the manifold, or have an adapter made up.

its a 50mm with a flange.

that wastegate is in my garage now and I made a block off plate for it. I've got the hot pipe for it with the dischaged welded to it. I'm using a different hot pipe when I put the 3B on the bottom.

this is the 4C hot pipe 50mm gate and dump pipe you can kind of see behind there.........

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Yea, that is quite different from what I got on order.

How have you got it set-up? what pressure is it set at? I like to know what pressure it start to open at and how much it fully opens. One day I have to get a ride from your truck to see how much different your twins are from mine.
Well I just took a ride in my truck. It has a pretty hard shift between 1st and second. The DTT converter is high stall unit and seems to turbo lite pretty fast. I just got the truck back from the dealership and the shifter linkage jumped off the transmission lever and I had no gears at all. For while there I thought that my tranny was done. It was well worth the wait and I saved money over the PDR unit.
I also saw that the coating place does heads. I'm thinking that I might get everything coated on my engine mid life service. You get the head back from Arron?

For sure Mike we'll go for some rides. my truck was pulling like a rocketsled when the HG went down. and now that you mention it, I discovered when I took the turbine housing off the 40. that the copper gasket was interfering with the wastegate. so I'm not sure it was working properly anyways. I've left the wastegate setting at factory setting. I'm useing the stock diaphram from my truck. I think it was 23psi or something like that.

Well no call from CT yet........Dropped it off Feb 14th I think.

Are you gonna come to the dyno, sans truck?

Be glad to give you a ride up if you want to come up Luke. I think Dave is coming too.

Yep....Unless Dave blows his truck up before that.Slipped the clutch this weekend setting up the laser cut DV.Going for another test run this evening..

Well I'm burning diesel again. The DTT unit is a pretty nice transmission and was well worth the effort and wait. The only thing that bugs me is that my truck has more vibration then before. Everything in the cab shakes now and there is audioable hum from the doors. I don't remember her doing that before.
I'm gonna try to balance her up this weekend. I'm kinda scared to put any miles on her like this. If I can't balance it up and reduce the vibration levels, I'm gonna try my other flex plate. I hate to wipe a rear bearing out of the engine after all the fun that I had to get her together.

nice to hear Mike!


We're moving to Okotoks the week after next........so I'll be hard pressed to make it up without a running truck.

Kinda dissapointing when Aaron told me it would be back with plenty of time to make the Dyno day.........and a day or two does not count as plenty of time.

Can't wait to see your truck around Okotoks, if you need any help moving or anything give me a holler, im off all week of the 24th

Luke buddy, get the head back? How did it look? If you can't make the dyno day, you should try to port match as much as you can. I'm out of time to slap together my homemade twins. I can do it but I hate to driving my truck up to Edmonton with no miles on her, I hate walking. I just got my liquid to air intercooler in, its pretty sweet unit. I can't have it together for the dyno met but by the following weekend...heh it could be in service shortly. The air tubes are actually easier with the new intercooler so its gonna be a easy to put in. I have to visit wreckers and pick up a small radiator of some sort.

Just got the message the head is done. I'm picking it up on Thurs.

Very NICE!!!!!! I want to make the sexy time!!!!!

.047" stainless rings, 80 pound PDR racesprings, valve job, new guides and seals, head decked and good to GO! .020" over head gasket going in as well.


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Top gun coatings Ceramic "Titanium" ( good to 2000* with lifetime guarantee)

it is an actual army green/blue type color........there are no other color options with the Titanium. So not sure how well the pics will show it.......actually the pics suck with the sunlight. Its a pretty cool color.

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I'm drooling buddy. SWEET!!! Let us know how it works. The red rocket will be smoken soon. I want my head back now.[duhhh] Just joking...

Looks good. I'll be interested to know how your coating works for you. Would you PM me what all the headwork was worth? I'll be following some of your footsteps shortly (hopefully not the ones involving catastrophic failure of headgasket).

Well no call from CT yet........Dropped it off Feb 14th I think.

Hey guys. Dumb question: what's "CT", Looks like they do nice work.

Thanks,
Dave

Luke, here are that you pics requested. The HX-40 on the left is a PDR unit and the one on the right is off a cummin 8.3L APU/generator turbo. The compressor wheel is slightly smaller and there is more blades than the PDR unit.

One day we should try a larger BTH-3B turbine housing on your truck and see what happens. I should have my current one off my truck fairly soon.