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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chaikwa
I'll agree with what you've stated above. I'll also stick with my class 8 vehicle for pulling our 40' bumper pull trailer. When that little blue wire that runs the brakes, breaks, or the brake ground is lost, I'll still be able to stop the unit.

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This is true. However if the brakes are set up correctly, in the above described scenario, the unit or units being towed will automatically come to a stop, rendering your Class 8 tractor unnecessary.
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 05:42 AM
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Worked at Quality Drive Away for 6 years, now with Fed Ex Ground. I tow doubles ALL DAY, every day.

Do I meet your qualifications for being 'in the industry?

Seriously, since when is an extra axle to spread load, add an extra set of brakes, add an additional tire footprint to the road, and add wheelbase to the tow vehicle useless?
If a 3500 is such a profitable setup why are you now with FedEx Ground ? I'd love to hear more about how you made money deadheading .
A 3500 and 4500 have a lower gvwr . Less payload , less money .
Stopping a load also depends on the braking ability of the tow vehicle . When a vehicle is loaded beyond its gcwr as most 3500's often are the braking is inadequate .
Super single tires ? I heard a lot of carriers that tried them are going back to duals . Blow a tire and most of the time you'll also end up replacing the wheel .
But no , as a former RV hauler now hauling doubles with a class 8 tractor I don't consider you qualified to give a response to the OP regarding the weight involved .
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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Seriously guys ..... this is about sharing information ..... the readers take what they want, what they determine to be valuable, credible information, do their own research and make a decision

You guys sound like school kids, whats next take out a ruler to see who has the bigger pp ? Give it a rest !
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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If a 3500 is such a profitable setup why are you now with FedEx Ground ? I'd love to hear more about how you made money deadheading .
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A lot of RV plants here in N. Indiana closed. I simply went to where the money was. I would go back to it in a second.

You make money deadheading by NOT spending as much money doing it. Everyone has to deadhead, just don't go broke doing so. Set up your truck to run both loaded AND empty at maximum milelage efficiency.
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RickG
A 3500 and 4500 have a lower gvwr . Less payload , less money .
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Since when is the amount of money you can earn in the freight industry corresponds to the amount of weight one can carry?
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Stopping a load also depends on the braking ability of the tow vehicle . When a vehicle is loaded beyond its gcwr as most 3500's often are the braking is inadequate .
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This just isn't true. The braking ability of the tow vehicle is inadequate to stop a loaded trailer on ALL TOWING COMBINATIONS EVER HITCHED TOGETHER! If they were'nt and the tow rig could stop the entire vehicle, why bother with trailer brakes at all?

It takes ALL of a combination vehicles brakes to safely stop a loaded trailer. I'll let you in on a little secret, a Class 8 tractor trailer's braking system IN PERFECT WORKING ORDER is inadequate to safely stop a loaded semi truck on a simple downhill grade. We in the 'industry' call this a runaway.

And you think you can tackle this job with just the tow vehicle?
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Super single tires ? I heard a lot of carriers that tried them are going back to duals . Blow a tire and most of the time you'll also end up replacing the wheel .
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THIS IS TRUE!!!! Our mechanic said the same thing to me!!!! HAA HAAAA!

BUT!!! But sadly, the Super Single provides superior fuel savings over the dual, enough to justify the cost of changing the hub and wheel assembly.

As fuel prices rise, and they will, the industry changes.
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 10:59 PM
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But no , as a former RV hauler now hauling doubles with a class 8 tractor I don't consider you qualified to give a response to the OP regarding the weight involved .
LOL!

Dang, I thought I knew what I was talking about!
Old Nov 28, 2010 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DJM
Seriously guys ..... this is about sharing information ..... the readers take what they want, what they determine to be valuable, credible information, do their own research and make a decision

You guys sound like school kids, whats next take out a ruler to see who has the bigger pp ? Give it a rest !
You ready RickG? I can't use a ruler, but I got myself a tape measure!
Old Nov 29, 2010 | 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDeezul
Since when is the amount of money you can earn in the freight industry corresponds to the amount of weight one can carry?
Since day one , especially with LTL and a medium duty or Class 8 tractor . I know several hotshotters that went from 1 tons to medium duty because they were missing out on too many loads . Each one said they wished they'd made that move much earlier .
Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by DJM
Seriously guys ..... this is about sharing information ..... the readers take what they want, what they determine to be valuable, credible information, do their own research and make a decision

You guys sound like school kids, whats next take out a ruler to see who has the bigger pp ? Give it a rest !
Well sometimes some BS has to be shown for what it is so members not really experienced with the circumstances being discussed know who's credible and who isn't .
Bad advice should be rebutted .
Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDeezul
LOL!

Dang, I thought I knew what I was talking about!
Oh , I apologize . I didn't realize besides working for Quality and FedEx Ground you also drove for Werner and Boyd Brothers . Maybe if you told us how long you were with each carrier we'd reconsider your qualifications .
Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ridofpwrstroke
4500 with 4.44's and the aisan tranny. small enough to drive around empty, and can pull a hell of a load. This is my next truck
Might look at one these myself soon.

Thanks, Ridofpwrstroke!
Old Nov 29, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboDeezul
Dang, I thought I knew what I was talking about!
You don't.

Originally Posted by TurboDeezul
You ready RickG? I can't use a ruler, but I got myself a tape measure!
And this one's done. You want to whack someone, go meet him and do it in person, not on this board.
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