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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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Tire Recommendation for Off Road

Its time to get some new tires on the rig. I guess I will have to stop doing burnouts now.

I like to off road, especially in the sand and snow in the winter and then dirt, sandstone and rocks in the summer.

I will need a tread pattern that will grip well but also hold up to towing.

From the posts I have read, many have recommended load rating E.
What is the difference between load rating E vs. load rating D?

I don't know the tongue weight of my trailer but I would guess the entire trailer is about 10K lbs.

Please give me some suggestions of tires that you have or had so I can go shopping.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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I had Cooper Discoverer AT's on my '99. Pretty good on the road and very good off road.
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Speakin from experience

BFG's are pretty good tires, i had them previously (as my photo gallery shows) They are good in the sand and everything else u want to use them for but in the mud, they can use some serious help. My liberator 285s are much better in the mud than the goodriches were..

Differences in load rating, 10 ply load range E tires, versus 8 ply load range D tires. I have towed with both, 10 plies are rougher to get goin and usually feel lumpy when you first take off in the morning, due to the extra plies and stiffer sidewall. They are usually rated to last longer on the highway and have stiffer sidewalls than eight plies. Ill be honest with 410 gears on my old rig, and 265 ten plies, single cab long bed, it felt like i was ridin in a wagon or a backhoe, but i could tow anything with very little sidewall flex

Using the eight plies i jsut hooked 20K on it about a month ago, sidewall flex was high and tires were loaded to just below their max in airpressure which is 60 lbs i think? and for bein wally world tires, they did very well... I was happy..

How often are you gonna tow? if your trailer is 10K you CAN GET AWAY with an eight ply tire towing once in a while, if you tow often, then nope. I tow 90 percent of the time two horses, round 1300 and 1100 lbs, and a four thousand pound two horse trailer.. which totals to 6400 lbs with eight ply tires, i have towed a backhoe 26K gross, and a bobcat 12K gross with trailer with eight ply tires, once in a while dont hurt, but continously i suggest u go 10 ply.. Or if you do lotsa highway mileage 10 ply is the way to go, its the way im goin next time around..

Best of luck

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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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Take a look at the Interco Trixus M/T, E rating in the 285's.

A buddy of mine had them on his Duracrap... He loved them, they wore well, great traction off road.

Mud terrain tires will self clean and generally perform WAY better off road than any all terrain tires.

I was not all that impressed with my Cooper A/T, but have several friends that swear by their Cooper S/T...
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:56 PM
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I have 33x12.50x17 ATsPro Comps and I really like them for sand, snow and rain.
A mud terrain doesn't work well for sand because they are designed to dig... not a good thing in sand.

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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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I'm going Pro Comp as they are made in and owned by Americans Mischelin Bf good rich and uniroyal all are FRENCH owned company'ss and they can go to he** as far as i am concerned--my 2 cents worth--Glenn and the pro comps all terrain have a 50k mile warrenty too
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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My friend is the President of Pro Comp. I had them on my 1500 and got about 15K miles out of them before they were seriously worn and torn up from rock crawling. They have great traction because they are a soft compound but I absolutely wore them out pulling with them. I guess I better not mention where and by who they are manufactured.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 08:50 PM
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I believe the ProComp tires are D rated, and have a somewhat low Max Load rating. Since this is a Towing thread, I thought I'd point this out. The only tires that I know of that are E rated are the Michelins and Toyo. I think the Toyo's are pretty spendy, but there isn't much of a selection in E rated tires for 17s.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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I believe that the Toyo Open Country M/Ts are the best, most versatile off-road tire around.

The 285 and 315 sizes are E rated to over 3700lbs each. Tread seems to wear very well, from what I hear.

If you don't off-road that much, then the Toyo M55s in the 285 size are better. They give up some mud traction in favor of hwy manners. They are AWESOME in the snow. They ride rough, but a very tough tires, and that's the price you pay. Again, the 285 M55s are E rated, over 3700lb.

My experience with Toyos has been very good on my other vehicles, and I will be putting them on my truck to replace the horrible Michelins it came with.

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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 09:51 AM
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Thanks for the info Hohn. I will see if I can locate a Toyo dealer and see if I need to take out a loan.....
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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If you find a good off-road tire that will hold up to towing on hot asphalt 700 miles a day at 65 mph, let me know. Been looking for a long time.

After multitudes of tires, right now I'm running Michelin XC's lr E's. Great towing tire, great in the sand, dirt, and gravel, very good in light snow and ice, not the best in deep snow and mud. Before that I had a set of Toyo M/T's. Great off-road tire, best I've had. Didn't last long with towing, and had some stability problems at speed.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by Gear Poet
If you find a good off-road tire that will hold up to towing on hot asphalt 700 miles a day at 65 mph, let me know. Been looking for a long time.

After multitudes of tires, right now I'm running Michelin XC's lr E's. Great towing tire, great in the sand, dirt, and gravel, very good in light snow and ice, not the best in deep snow and mud. Before that I had a set of Toyo M/T's. Great off-road tire, best I've had. Didn't last long with towing, and had some stability problems at speed.
I have to vote for the Toyo M-55's here too. We used to replace the OEM tires with the Toyos on our company trucks until 17 inch wheels in 2005 (see sig). I am in the oilfield in Safety. Lots of highway and bush driving all over Alberta and Northern BC towing trailers. I have yet to find anyhting comparable for all of this driving. The Toyo m-55's are a commercial tire, great on the highway, and on muddy lease roads and leases - never had to chain up with M-55's onboard - others I have. They stand up running on gravel and sharp pit run.

I recently received an email from Toyo that the M-55 should be available in Canada in 17 inch sizes before Christmas this year. Probably sooner stateside. Along with trying to save for a new truck, I am waiting for these to come out so I can put them on my new my personal vehicle - I will not go with anything else - expensive, but worth it IMHO. I have personally tested them in emergency and non-emergency situations, towing trailers up to 150 km/h on the highway (not recommended but crap was happening, breathing air was immediately required, and had to be done), and in the most awful places they've managed to build what they think is a road.
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Old Aug 6, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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I won't run anything other than a TOYO either, never had a tire do so much, so well. had 315 / 75 r16 on my 01 2500, installing 2" spacers and blocks in my 04 3500 to run the 35x12.5r17 open country mt. Load ratings are huge compared to anything else, (save the truxus, friend of mine said they were really loud and rough though) The tire is simply amazing, if you get a chance, feel the thickness of the sidewall, and then feel a BFG AT, that should make up your mind right then.
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by HOHN
[B]I believe that the Toyo Open Country M/Ts are the best, most versatile off-road tire around.

The 285 and 315 sizes are E rated to over 3700lbs each. Tread seems to wear very well, from what I hear.

dido I have a set on one of my Dodges real good tires
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