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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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Doubles?

Hey guys,hauling trailers for a living,and thinking about getting around hauling one at a time like this...LOL
A 25' GN to haul one trailer,and another trailer connected to the back of the GN,anyone tryed to do this? I'm sure some states would not like it,just hanging one out to see what you all think.(hauling travel trailers)
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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I have seen alot of people do it and I personally don't see anything wrong with doing it as long as your sure that once you have the one loaded on the gooseneck, you can get it back off.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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I'm sure it could be done, but I think that even states that require no special license for recreaction doubles, will require a CDL wth doubles endorsement when doing it for hire. For sure you would need it in WA, OR and CA. I have seen guys with a TT on a flat bed towing another TT. I have also seen two and sometime three trailers mounted on a 53 ft flatbed tlr behind a class 8 truck. You would need a second brake controller. You do know that when towing more than one trailer that the pay goes down for the second one, right?
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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length would be the only issue
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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Depends on state, Utah can have doubles with 65' length restriction. No license required as long as its not commercial and RV related. Can be fifth wheel and regular trailer or 2 regular trailers not to exceed 65'.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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In Oregon I believe only commercial 5th wheels can be double...
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GAmes
I'm sure it could be done, but I think that even states that require no special license for recreaction doubles, will require a CDL wth doubles endorsement when doing it for hire. For sure you would need it in WA, OR and CA. I have seen guys with a TT on a flat bed towing another TT. I have also seen two and sometime three trailers mounted on a 53 ft flatbed tlr behind a class 8 truck. You would need a second brake controller. You do know that when towing more than one trailer that the pay goes down for the second one, right?
I know that alot of places try to do that,I wish people would not accept that,I don't.
I sometimes haul camper/traveltrailer at the same time
$2.10 a mile aint too bad.
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Old Jul 15, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff in TD
In Oregon I believe only commercial 5th wheels can be double...
Yep,Now that you mention it...seems to me that I'd have to turn my pickup into a "tractor",remove the bed,and hook it all up to a fifth wheel.

Thanks guys,I guess I'd better just stop at the scales and ask them...just to be sure.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff in TD
In Oregon I believe only commercial 5th wheels can be double...
That is generally true and also in WA. However, I have been told (and have seen a couple) you can pull 2 RV type trailers in OR if the first trailer is a fifth wheel type. The powers that be will tell you it is NOT legal but there "supposedly" is a legal loop hole in the law. That being the law states that you can pull 1 unit with another and a fifth wheel setup is considered "one" unit. I can't confirm the accuracy of this but I do know it is being done because I have seen at least one OR plated unit doing just that and talked with a couple MT fellas a # of years back that towed a fifth wheel unit with a drift boat behind it. I asked about it and they said it was legal in MT and were seen by several OSP cars on the way over and were not pulled over.

Here in WA I saw 2 sets of goose necked doubles (also from MT) twice a couple years ago. The first time was on some back roads outside Vancouver and the second time both sets were stopped south of the Ridgefield scale on I-5 with NO drivers around. I suspect the WSP shut them down as they are specifically NOT allowed in WA.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 11:20 AM
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I think in Oregon it talks about a semi truck can pull a 2nd trailer as long as the 2nd trailer is a dolly/5th wheel setup... I think there's also an exception for new trucks saddled together...

I'd definately get some legal advice before considering it.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff in TD
I think in Oregon it talks about a semi truck can pull a 2nd trailer as long as the 2nd trailer is a dolly/5th wheel setup... I think there's also an exception for new trucks saddled together...

I'd definately get some legal advice before considering it.
Are you talking about dealer/Mfg delivering trucks?

Commercial rigs pull A-B and C trains. In OR/WA allowable lenth is 68' from the front of the front trailer to the back of the rear trailer with no limit on the length of the tractor although there probably is an overall length limit which is 105' for triples. Not sure how that applies for doubles. Would have to get out a DOT reg book. Triples not legal in WA anyway.
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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 03:01 PM
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Doing a search, I found this page, 818.110 and 120... Would take a lawyer to tell you what it means...

http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/818.html
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