2ng gen purchase ? 12v vs 24v
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The remanufactured VP-44 pumps range from $1,015.00 to as high as $1,200.00 depending on where you buy them. They are usually guaranteed by the dealers for about a year as long as the owner does not modify them.
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You will have members here that have the VP-44 pumps on their trucks that have had good service out of them, but there are just as many that have had them fail. If you go to the "24 Valve Engine and Drivetrain" Section here you can read through the threads and see all the posts about them. IMHO, I will never own another 1998-5-2002 Dodge CTD 24 valve with the VP-44!
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Blake, when I sold it, it had 94,000 miles on it. I used the money from that sale to buy the new 2006 Dodge CTD CR that I still have today. That truck now has 123,000 miles on it with no fuel related problems so far. And I have NEVER had ANY fuel issues with my 1996 and that truck has 313,000 miles on it. The P-7100 fuel pumps are TOUGH and RELIABLE!
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Blake, when I sold it, it had 94,000 miles on it. I used the money from that sale to buy the new 2006 Dodge CTD CR that I still have today. That truck now has 123,000 miles on it with no fuel related problems so far. And I have NEVER had ANY fuel issues with my 1996 and that truck has 313,000 miles on it. The P-7100 fuel pumps are TOUGH and RELIABLE!
Blake, when I sold it, it had 94,000 miles on it. I used the money from that sale to buy the new 2006 Dodge CTD CR that I still have today. That truck now has 123,000 miles on it with no fuel related problems so far. And I have NEVER had ANY fuel issues with my 1996 and that truck has 313,000 miles on it. The P-7100 fuel pumps are TOUGH and RELIABLE!
Dads 02 is working on 200k. Other than a recirculation door a/c issue, its been perfect.
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Oh I know it for sure. One of my favorite trucks ever was my uncles 97 2500 Dually conversion. It lasted him 200k, which in normal people use, is close to oh, about 2 million miles.
Dads 02 is working on 200k. Other than a recirculation door a/c issue, its been perfect.
Dads 02 is working on 200k. Other than a recirculation door a/c issue, its been perfect.
You Dad is one of those lucky ones with that 2002 Blake.
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I bought a new 97 3/4t 5 spd 3.54 and had it for 9 yrs. It was the best vehicle I ever owned and so simple to fix anything on it. The 5 spds have more hp than the autos and can take a lot of mods and still be VERY reliable. I fixed the dowel pin, did the mainshaft/5th gear fix, con o clutch, bigger rear wheel cylinders, gutted the cat and had it up to 292hp/812tq. I sold it with 94k and it was without a doubt, better than new. All the week points were fixed and it had the power to get up thru the gears on steep grades with the wide, 5 spd gears and got 21 mpg. I needed a QC badly and I got a bigger 5er which made the 3.54 too high for the slow going roads around here. I moved a 12k lb 5er to a soft dirt storage yard for a friend once and it was murder on the clutch. I'd want the 4.10 for heavy hauling and a dually. If there would have been a 12V quadcab, I would have had one and put a 4.10 in it. I think my early CR is the next best thing but I'd MUCH rather have the all-mechanical fuel system. Craig
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12V is my opinion, i have had 4 cummins trucks 1 with a 24v, never had any problems and worked pretty hard, sold it to my cousin (again because i had never had any problems) and from then on it was nothing but a money pit, vp44, trans, 2 lift pumps,
the more electronics the more potential for problems. my .02
Dar
the more electronics the more potential for problems. my .02
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OK guys I am going to take a look at a 1999 that has the manual and 3:55 gears. Looks like my 15k trailer will exceed the tow rating on the truck by a few hundred pounds
. Should I me looking for a 3500 dually instead ?
. Should I me looking for a 3500 dually instead ?
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If you are looking at a 1999 then you will have a VP-44 fuel pump on that truck! If you buy that truck, all I have to say is "Good luck to you!"
Also, if you are towing a 15K trailer IMHO you would be better off with a 3500dually as you pinted out.
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Dually... absolutely! My 03 dually is rated 15k, towing. I think an srw would be over, more like 1000s. FWIW, I went to a seminar at a Bosch fuel shop in about 2000 and they said they hadn't seen any failures of vp44s or lift pumps in trucks that used additives (for lubricity) at that time. I have friends with vp44s that haven't had problems with well over 100k miles. From what I've read... it's VERY important to replace the LP at the first sign of low pressure and DON'T run out of fuel. Starving or even worse, air, does irreversible damage. Craig
