New Infraction System
Hi Lary
I was probably a little brutal in the way I worded my first post on the subject.I was just browsing and thought I would comment on the new system.Anyway to make a long post short,I`ve stopped digging.
Thanks Van
I was probably a little brutal in the way I worded my first post on the subject.I was just browsing and thought I would comment on the new system.Anyway to make a long post short,I`ve stopped digging.
Thanks Van
No it isn't. 
What we mean by that is arguing the same point over and over in a thread or a series of threads. Tranny war/oil war/Walbro v. FASS type situations. Simply disagreeing, making your point, and moving on would not be considered arguing.

What we mean by that is arguing the same point over and over in a thread or a series of threads. Tranny war/oil war/Walbro v. FASS type situations. Simply disagreeing, making your point, and moving on would not be considered arguing.
Can we just turn him in here and ban him
~Rob
As a suggestion ~
I'm not sure about the new forum software specifics, but if you can, you might want to . . . .
Create a sub-forum in the Staff section. Call it The Pasture or something.
When someone messes up badly, the Mod would move the thread to The Pasture without making any editing. That way you have a record so to speak.
Then post a memo in the members User Notes mentioning the rule broken, and a link to the thread in The Pasture. That way any staff can see a members history. Perhaps you can include the offenders tally.
You might consider sending a rubber-stamp Email and PM to the offender after an infraction is issued giving notice. That way there's no crying about I didn't know.
Then create a locked thread in the Staff forum that only a super would edit. It would contain a full list of all infracted members including their total. Again, so all staff can see who's standing at the outhouse door, who's in it, and who's under.
Back to The Pasture, Mods would also copy soiled threads there so as to include personal attacks, profanity, etc in individual posts before sanitizing the original thread. (These would be threads that you don't want to move from public sight).
You might also move all banned spammer threads there as well.
One thing this will also accomplish is keep all good members post count unaltered as some are funny about such.
Hope I'm not stepping on toes or anything, just helpful intended suggestion coming from "Been there, done that".
I'm not sure about the new forum software specifics, but if you can, you might want to . . . .
Create a sub-forum in the Staff section. Call it The Pasture or something.
When someone messes up badly, the Mod would move the thread to The Pasture without making any editing. That way you have a record so to speak.
Then post a memo in the members User Notes mentioning the rule broken, and a link to the thread in The Pasture. That way any staff can see a members history. Perhaps you can include the offenders tally.
You might consider sending a rubber-stamp Email and PM to the offender after an infraction is issued giving notice. That way there's no crying about I didn't know.
Then create a locked thread in the Staff forum that only a super would edit. It would contain a full list of all infracted members including their total. Again, so all staff can see who's standing at the outhouse door, who's in it, and who's under.

Back to The Pasture, Mods would also copy soiled threads there so as to include personal attacks, profanity, etc in individual posts before sanitizing the original thread. (These would be threads that you don't want to move from public sight).
You might also move all banned spammer threads there as well.
One thing this will also accomplish is keep all good members post count unaltered as some are funny about such.
Hope I'm not stepping on toes or anything, just helpful intended suggestion coming from "Been there, done that".
"Heated" arguements would be a better way of describing it. 
Not quite. We enforce the rules that have been set forth to the best of our ability and judement. We are simply the peacekeepers of DTR. We really strive to maintain the high quality family oriented atmospere here. Occasionally a member will get out of hand where we step in and enforce the rules but for the most part I'd say that 99.9% of the membership here abide by the rules and enjoy the site. 
Flaming (also referred to as trolling), is simplly someone starting something just to ruffle some feathers. A perfect example would be someone who just joined posting a thread "Cummins diesel sucks". Kinda like jamming a stick in a hornets nest, a guy that posted that simply to antagonize the membership here. Hope that explains it for you.
AFAIK, no. Only since the new upgrade.
We have a system similar to that in place. Us admin have a knack for "editing on the fly", quickly editing posts, and should an entire thread need editing, thats when it goes in the black hole.


Flaming (also referred to as trolling), is simplly someone starting something just to ruffle some feathers. A perfect example would be someone who just joined posting a thread "Cummins diesel sucks". Kinda like jamming a stick in a hornets nest, a guy that posted that simply to antagonize the membership here. Hope that explains it for you.

AFAIK, no. Only since the new upgrade.

As a suggestion ~
I'm not sure about the new forum software specifics, but if you can, you might want to . . . .
Create a sub-forum in the Staff section. Call it The Pasture or something.
When someone messes up badly, the Mod would move the thread to The Pasture without making any editing. That way you have a record so to speak.
Then post a memo in the members User Notes mentioning the rule broken, and a link to the thread in The Pasture. That way any staff can see a members history. Perhaps you can include the offenders tally.
You might consider sending a rubber-stamp Email and PM to the offender after an infraction is issued giving notice. That way there's no crying about I didn't know.
Then create a locked thread in the Staff forum that only a super would edit. It would contain a full list of all infracted members including their total. Again, so all staff can see who's standing at the outhouse door, who's in it, and who's under.
Back to The Pasture, Mods would also copy soiled threads there so as to include personal attacks, profanity, etc in individual posts before sanitizing the original thread. (These would be threads that you don't want to move from public sight).
You might also move all banned spammer threads there as well.
One thing this will also accomplish is keep all good members post count unaltered as some are funny about such.
Hope I'm not stepping on toes or anything, just helpful intended suggestion coming from "Been there, done that".
I'm not sure about the new forum software specifics, but if you can, you might want to . . . .
Create a sub-forum in the Staff section. Call it The Pasture or something.
When someone messes up badly, the Mod would move the thread to The Pasture without making any editing. That way you have a record so to speak.
Then post a memo in the members User Notes mentioning the rule broken, and a link to the thread in The Pasture. That way any staff can see a members history. Perhaps you can include the offenders tally.
You might consider sending a rubber-stamp Email and PM to the offender after an infraction is issued giving notice. That way there's no crying about I didn't know.
Then create a locked thread in the Staff forum that only a super would edit. It would contain a full list of all infracted members including their total. Again, so all staff can see who's standing at the outhouse door, who's in it, and who's under.

Back to The Pasture, Mods would also copy soiled threads there so as to include personal attacks, profanity, etc in individual posts before sanitizing the original thread. (These would be threads that you don't want to move from public sight).
You might also move all banned spammer threads there as well.
One thing this will also accomplish is keep all good members post count unaltered as some are funny about such.
Hope I'm not stepping on toes or anything, just helpful intended suggestion coming from "Been there, done that".

AlpineRAM
Well, personally I am glad that I am given the privilege of using this site. I do not think of being a member here as a right but as a privilege. This privilege can be revoked on the sole discretion of the giving part (DTR) - so I do have to accept the rules the DTR uses as a base necessity to dispense the privilege.
AlpineRAM
AlpineRAM
Dude are you kidding???? They need us here to sell to advertisement to vendors, go ahead and ban everyone, see how many vendors want to advertise on this site that has no one on it. Good Lord I am here to help you make money just as much as you are here to keep me in touch with other owners for info, therefore I am a customer and I refuse to kiss anyones rearend here. I am not that involved with this site, but for someone to talk to me as a prisoner or child when they sell advertising space by using my membership as a selling point is insane. DUN BAN ME MASSA I BE GOOD I BE GOOD
Dude are you kidding???? They need us here to sell to advertisement to vendors, go ahead and ban everyone, see how many vendors want to advertise on this site that has no one on it. Good Lord I am here to help you make money just as much as you are here to keep me in touch with other owners for info, therefore I am a customer and I refuse to kiss anyones rearend here. I am not that involved with this site, but for someone to talk to me as a prisoner or child when they sell advertising space by using my membership as a selling point is insane. DUN BAN ME MASSA I BE GOOD I BE GOOD
2. We rely on our members just as much
3. This site is FREE
4. You have a serious problem with false sense of entitlement
5. You don't need to kiss rear end around but you do need to follow the rules because if you don't, then you're gone, plain and simple.
We do the best we can to treat everyone here equally. One member doesn't have any more rights than another, and we don't play favorites. If we like you, we'll still ban you if you can't find a way to follow the rules. If we don't like you, we'll follow the same process. It's that simple. Either live with it or find another place to visit.
If I sound harsh, that is because for the past 5 years now, I have dealt with many people. The very large majority of them are mature adults and very respectful. However, there are some that just act like 20 and 30 year old children who hide behind a computer screen and think they can do whatever they want whenever they want, and think that this site belongs to them. Well, I hate to tell ya, it's "private property", so to speak.
Again, I'm not meaning to sound harsh but we have followed this philosophy for 5 years and we continue to have the fastest growing diesel site on the net. There is a good reason for that. In 6 months or less, we'll be bigger than TDR and the plans moving forward will show that we are going to continue to grow by leaps and bounds. Why? Because it seems, my friends, that our philospophy works, even with a select few bad mouthing us out there, most rational folks don't listen to that, and they have the maturity to make their own decisions. More and more, those decisions are to stay with us and grow with us.
PS - you seem very angry. Why?
Secondly, have you ever thought about how certain comments like the ones you just made can affect you as a vendor?
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"Heated" arguements would be a better way of describing it. 
Flaming (also referred to as trolling), is simplly someone starting something just to ruffle some feathers. A perfect example would be someone who just joined posting a thread "Cummins diesel sucks". Kinda like jamming a stick in a hornets nest, a guy that posted that simply to antagonize the membership here. Hope that explains it for you.

Flaming (also referred to as trolling), is simplly someone starting something just to ruffle some feathers. A perfect example would be someone who just joined posting a thread "Cummins diesel sucks". Kinda like jamming a stick in a hornets nest, a guy that posted that simply to antagonize the membership here. Hope that explains it for you.

Sorry, I just couldn't resist that one!







