X2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

XLR8R, I agree, and here is another example, thanks Walker and PJ, of what not to do. The use of profanity is prohibited at DTR as is the use of keyboard symbols to replace letters in profanity or profane posts. Additionally, if you repost prohibited material, you can receive the same infraction as the original posting member. I'm not picking on you guys, just showing how easy it is to get into trouble with just a little thing. We do take the "G" rating seriously!

 

Me?

I just quoted material already posted here. He was already automatically edited, I am the epidomy of what TO do around here!

 

He didn't get automatically edited, I edited the post.

 

It had asterisks and such in there.

Pretty bad when you can almost (unknowingly) get reprimanded in a thread about getting reprimanded.........

 

I was more posting for the comedy of the fact, I never even noticed the language.

Sorry.

 

But if it had been automatically edited he would still have broken the rules and been reprimanded, correct?

 

Correct, that's the issue. I didn't realize that coping (quoting) a sequence of symbols was going to be offensive.

 

Here's the way it works: Say Jack and Lary decided that the word "fluffy" was a bad word. If you typed in "fluffy" it would come out "******" because of the censor settings in the software. We admins would have no problem with that - the word didn't get posted, no harm no foul. What we would have a problem with is if you typed "fIuffy" or "fl**fy". If we can tell what you mean from what you typed, we consider it the same as posting the actual word.

As far as quoting a post - I'm not gonna give points for that, although I'd probably send the person a PM asking them to read more carefully before they quote.

 

The thing that every member has to remember is that you, the member, are solely responsible for the content of your posts. Only you can hit the submit button for your post. If you quote someone else's infractionable offense, you are just as liable as they are for receiving an infraction also. When you replace letters with other symbols the meaning of the post still rings through even though the word isn't there.

 

Which is what Rick did.

 

The thing is, the censored asterisks you describe as being "no harm no foul" are exactly what I was given points for. Not partially spelled words with asterisks or other symbols, but words the censor filter changed to all asterisks. Granted in my case the other words in the sentence made it pretty easy to figure out what the censored words were, so it is safe to say the post could be considered vulgar. My point is that there is a large difference between the rules and/or modding in the 1st gen and the 3rd gen forums.

The above post and another quote from someone else with asterisks in it were the reasons for my infraction.

When the rules say "no profanity whatsoever", and a person makes a post knowing the profane word will be censored out with asterisks, I honestly think 99% of people don't consider the asterisks profane and don't believe they're breaking the rules. Wanna, who is IMO a great mod here, states in his post he thinks the asterisks are not profane.

Again, I'm not here to argue about the infraction or try and get the points removed. I would just like to point out the above that there seems to be some varying opinions among the mods on specific rules, and that makes it confusing for the members.

 

Don't sweat it P.J. - you just happened to get caught up in the ongoing anti-profanity dragnet

... how do you like the feel of jackboots on your neck?

Sorry Lary - I couldn't resist!
You know I love you guys

 

This might help to clear up the confusion, from the forum rules;

In addition, for the use of this forum, profane posts should be considered those completely spelled words, or partially spelled words with use of keyboard symbols that suggest a profane meaning. We repeat, profane posts will absolutely not be tolerated on this website and its forums

Simply put, the asterisks in this case suggest a profane meaning and as such they are an infraction, or not allowed on the forum. The way I would moderate this situation is to warn the original offender and edit it out of the quote from the follow up poster as he likely did not even see it.

Now on the other hand, if it is a quote from another forum or website that is copy and pasted by a member, it is treated as an original quote and would be an infraction. We are all responsible for what we bring to this forum.

Obviously there has to be intent in order for a situation like this to become an infraction. The second user, (PJ) in this particular scenario was merely answering the question and did not intend to repeat the offensive word. It was automatically reproduced when he used the quote function and as such no intent to post an offensive word.

I hope this clears things up a little better

 

I took a look at your infraction, and it was not for foul language, it was for an inappropriate post. And it WAS an inappropriate post - but not because of the asterisks.

Each of the admins here is like a cop and a judge all rolled into one. We all try to enforce the rules as we understand them - but we are all different people and we are all human. Some of us are new to this job, and none of us took a training course or received an "Official DTR Policy Handbook." So yes, you are going to find some cases of inconsistency. But it's not maliciously intended and nobody is going to get banned over it. You simply don't get banned here for no reason, we try to work with everyone before we take that step.