I think it says somethign for this site that the complaints in this thread are being responded to. I agree with Madhat, this is Jack & Larry's house, they set the rules and may enforce them as they see fit. And quite bluntly, I am tired of folks crying and griping about that fact. This discussion has gotten old and tired.
I have no stake in this site other than as a member, but please, if the rules are too much for you, go start your own site and be happy......

 

One part of my job is to support the sites we sponsor. I am on a lot of different sites…as I have seen a few others as well on other sites. I can honestly say after about a year of hitting the net, this is one of the tighest run ships. These guys do a great job and I can feel I can work with others on this site without all the “stuff” that tends to cloud discussion.

 

I dont recall ever seeing anyting Begle1 ever posted that I thought to be questionable or offensive, he always was so upbeat and brought this place the certain "zing" this place needed. The one thing I dont understand is not being able to post links which may contain so called "offensive" material. Im tired of clicking on a thread with "dyno video" or something like that only to find the video link is no longer there because someone in the video said a "bad" word, it extremly frustrating and such threads should be deleted rather than edited to spare me the frustration. I can somewhat understand regualting what we can say on your forum but trying to make it so others cant see something on another website because someone could get their panties in a wad is just stupid. I think if are offended by WORDS then you should stay off the internet, period.

 

Very simple..the Forum Rules you agreed to here when you wanted to join this site state that profanity will not be tolerated on this site. That means you can not get around that rule by posting a link to another site that contains profanity.

There are plenty of places on the Internet where you can see all that stuff your little heart desires, but this isn't that place. If you find that unacceptable, then please do not feel you are obligated to stay here against your will

We will happily refund your dues at any time.....

 

This should not be that hard to understand when the term "you will not post any material" in the first sentence of the Forum Rules refers to written words, pictures and links.

That's like saying if you invite me and a few of my buddies to your house and the only thing you ask is that we don't use any offensive language in front of your wife, your mom and your kids. We say "sure,, no problem" and while you go about making us comfortable, we mention to the rest of the family, that there are magazines and video movies out in the truck if they want to check them out. You mean you won't be upset with us when you find out the magazines are Hustler and Penthouse,,, and the videos are some of the "Raw" Richard Pryor, Robin Williams, Eddie Murphy type performances or maybe something out of the XXX section?
I think you would be.


I assume that this last sentence in your post was supposed to read,
to which I have this reply.
I think if you are offended by our RULES, then you should stay off our website, period.

 

Here we go again...

It's not looking good for the non-administrator in this conversation...
Better to quit while you're ahead...

 

Big Brother Thorpe?

I think that it's his house and his invitation.. I do quite often post opinions that are opposing to the opinions of the admins here. I try to do it respectfully, refrain from using "foul" language but nevertheless I try to bring my point across.
I have never been in any way discriminated, muted, banned or even scolded for my opinions. (But in some cases we agreed to disagree on some points)
This does really contradict the "Big Brother" theory of you. (If you use Big Brother as a reference to George Orwell's book 1984)
I do not feel "controlled" or "thought policed" on this site. I see that there are some quite simple rules as to what body parts and effluences and which kinds of activities are not to be named on this site.
I do not think that the users are banned for disagreeing with Mr Thorpe but for disrespecting the rules that are in place for the almost 33000 users of this forum. So this makes them no minority worth of special protection in my eyes. They are not threatened in their livelyhood. They can still access the information that is posted here. They are only kept from posting since it's reasonable to suspect that they would continue to post in a manner that's disrespectful to the said rules.
So in my opinion there is no valid base for comparison between the Orwellian schemes of 1984 with the rules on this site.

Just my 2c

AlpineRAM

 

Inane complaining from some..... Universal!
This response....Priceless!!

The strong growth of this site, WITH it's rules, (and maybe because of them) ... speaks volumes.

RJ

 

I wanted to stay out of this one, but I have run out of popcorn, and my posterior is tired of sitting in the chair.

I have rules in every aspect of my life, most of which are foisted upon me by an elected body that is supposed to reflect wishes of the people, guided by the constitution, etc. etc.etc....

Most of them, I live by whether I like it or not, and have the option to play nice and conform, or take the consequences accordingly. Since historically I have an uncanny knack for getting caught in any deviation I attempt, no matter how small, I learned at an early age to leave well enough alone, and follow rules and regs. If I find a rule or reg too outrageous to follow, I have avenues in civil society to attempt to influence change. All well and good. Thant is public life. This is a private site. I have an enormous privilege to visit this forum, free of charge, if I stick to the rules, NONE of which I find difficult or stifling. Therefore, I can happily pull up the chair, grab a favorite beverage, and read or write to my heart's content. What is difficult to grasp here? Ron White does a comedy sketch about "being drunk in public" in New York City. (I KNOW most of you are familiar with the "Blue Collar Comedy guys) He complains that he was hassled for being drunk in public after being thrown out of a bar because he couldn't remember to keep his hat off inside. He wound up on the street for violating the rules of the private establishment. Sure, he complained and made a funny sketch out of it, but he admits he couldn't follow the rules and was ejected. We can debate all day if he was within his rights to sit in the club with a hat on, but the private establishment had a dress code, and they enforcecd it. I bet other patrons are happy that the code exists, so they can have a good time without some sort of gang related fighting breaking out over the interpretation of gang apparel.

I decide whether I am going to write appropriately, flame a poster, insult a member, spam through pm's, etc. Jack, Lary, and the site Moderators will decide what to do in response. It is their show.

What is the argument?? I am with Madhat -- where is the malfunction??

If I want to read a bunch of personal attacks and profanity, and see all of the little "smileys" giving rude gestures or engaging in either profane or violent action, there are many sites out there for me to visit. At times, I find them very funny, but don't want to be there if my kids are up, because they like to sit on my lap and watch the forums with me. They think the DTR music videos are awesome, they love the truckpulling videos, and the burnouts. My boys love diesels, tractors, semis -- all things kids love. I don't need them getting an education on profanity or reproduction while watching a full pull!

Many will argue that they hear or see worse at school, and I don't dispute that, since I am not there and I remember what public school was like for me. What I will point out is that it is MY responsibility as a parent to limit what I let my children see and do at home, in an attempt to teach them what MY values are, and to help them decide what is appropriate in open society. They will not have any issues reading this forum because of the rules, and I have no worries letting them sit with me at the computer while I surf the posts, pictures, and videos.

I am not thrilled with many video hosting sites these days. Another poster was upset that links are removed because of content at the linked site. I followed a link to a very well done, extremely entertaining drag racing set of videos hosted on YouTube or something similar. While the videos I linked to see were awesome and appropriate, many of the thumbs for other videos off to the side were not even close to PG-13, much less G for my kids! (I had a lot of trouble trying to explain to a 6 year old what those two were doing, and he only saw them for a split second until I could close out the window!!)

Another topic, but perhaps this site or another should consider hosting videos with similar rules as what exist here? Then we could upload videos of our trucks, races, pulls, dyno's, etc. without the fear of losing the link.

This post has gotten too long, but after reading 10 pages over the last several days, I had to speak my piece. As has been said before, it really doesn't matter what I think about the rules on this site, other than to abide by them, because it isn't my site. Most sites I have been to or on have a very similar point system, but this site has made the decision to do two things different from many:

1) they openly told us about it and are allowing people to talk about it.
2) they are making the points accrued permanent.

Most I have been to (NOT ALL) have the system in the background and you don't know until you are banned. Others have it, but the points can expire over time. My experience with the latter is that people behave until the points fall back to a safe level, then flame and harrass again. I find them better off gone, since they do not add real value to the discussion.

"Character is what you do or say when no one is around"

 

Here is how I see it. Everyone here is an adult I assume. If you act like an adult you will be ok. If you don't you'll probably end up banned. Both sides of the argument here have a leg to stand on, but that is not really the point. The point is you agreed to the rules, right or wrong, when you registered here so follow them. Argue until you are blue in the face, but the only one who will win is the Admin. That is how the internet works now days. Just my .02.

 

Very good read, Josh. You too, Travis.

 

As Mark Twain said, when his wife complained about his bad language... "I can't get over the notion, that in certain dire circumstances, profanity furnishes a relief.... denied even to prayer"

As you (AR) said further on...Just don't put it in print.

RJ

 

As a member, may I make a request of the admins????




please lock this thread, and future ones concerning this topic, we have beat this horse till theres not enough of the corpse left for DNA analysis. ....
I have found this an intersting read until it is just recycling the same comments and arguements, if they dont get i tby now, they're not going to...
....and please keep up the good work.....

 

X2.........

 

X3........