Yikes!! $300.+ for FP Gauge
Mopar...have seen that photo b4 is that the bottom of your fuel filter or VP? Can I assume the line goes directly to the back of the gauge. Can you detail the parts and where you got them?. How did you secure the hose on it's way to the firewall? Certainly looks inexpensive.
Thanks
Xbnkrbrkr
Thanks
Xbnkrbrkr
Originally posted by xbnkrbrkr
Mopar...have seen that photo b4 is that the bottom of your fuel filter or VP? Can I assume the line goes directly to the back of the gauge. Can you detail the parts and where you got them?. How did you secure the hose on it's way to the firewall? Certainly looks inexpensive.
Thanks
Xbnkrbrkr
Mopar...have seen that photo b4 is that the bottom of your fuel filter or VP? Can I assume the line goes directly to the back of the gauge. Can you detail the parts and where you got them?. How did you secure the hose on it's way to the firewall? Certainly looks inexpensive.
Thanks
Xbnkrbrkr
Yes that is a picture of the underside of the filter can. It setup as a post filter pressure. I want to see went I have filter problems too...

Needle Valve is a Weatherhead Part # WH6820 (I Think...) cost $5.00 at NAPA
The tubing you can get at NAPA. I had a left over from a older oil pressure setup.
There is also a 1/8" NPT Male/Male fitting for about $1.00... (NAPA again)
Banjo Bolt is $7.00 at Geno's Garage....You might even get luck like myself and have a member her given you a Banjo Bolt. Once again thank you MLR1 for it

I used a zip tie to tie it to the brake lines running toward the rear of the truck. This is route under the steering shaft and into though the rubber mani harness. (Dealer already poked a hole in it for the jake brake leads)
JustinP20012500. I am looking at that same gauge and I have a 2001 as well. I am curious if you could share how you mounted the sending unit? Their website is not very helpful in determining what else might be needed.
Mopar1973man...let's see if I can explain back to you how this works. The banjo bolt screws into the bottom of the fuel filter (replaces current fitting?) where the main supply to Vp also connects. The bottom part of the banjo bolt allows the needle valve to be attached to it. The (what size?) line is attached to the needle valve. The line goes directly to the back of the gauge. No sender, no isolator. All metal to metal fittings are treated with Permatex #2 Not Teflon Tape (from other posts)
To further clarify here is what I see in your photo (sorry about being so **** but not all of us have seen these parts B4) From right to left...Banjo Bolt...a male fitting which is seperate or part of the needle valve? Needle valve...another male fitting may be part of valve?...a female fitting (looks like a reducer what sizes?) which has a smaller male fitting screwed into it and that receives the fuel line and the nut seals the two.
I see two? other fittings left of the line... where do they connect? It would have been clearer to me if the parts had not been assembled but arranged in the order of installation. Just my .02 You have made a great effort to explain this setup and I and other mechanically challenged readers appreciate that.
Thanks
Xbnkrbrkr
To further clarify here is what I see in your photo (sorry about being so **** but not all of us have seen these parts B4) From right to left...Banjo Bolt...a male fitting which is seperate or part of the needle valve? Needle valve...another male fitting may be part of valve?...a female fitting (looks like a reducer what sizes?) which has a smaller male fitting screwed into it and that receives the fuel line and the nut seals the two.
I see two? other fittings left of the line... where do they connect? It would have been clearer to me if the parts had not been assembled but arranged in the order of installation. Just my .02 You have made a great effort to explain this setup and I and other mechanically challenged readers appreciate that.
Thanks
Xbnkrbrkr
All fittings are 1/8 NPT Threads. Here is the order of assembly from the bottom of the filter housing. Yes you remove the existing banjo bolt and replace it with the tapped one from Geno's garage... Use small amount of sealant don't get carried away with it.
Bottom Of Fuel Filter
Tapped Banjo Bolt (Female fitting)
(Male Fitting) Needle valve (Female fitting)
Double Male / Male brass fitting
(female fitting) Ferrule/Compression fitting
Nylon Tubing
Ferrule / Compression Fitting (female fitting)
(male fitting) Back of Gauge
Bottom Of Fuel Filter
Tapped Banjo Bolt (Female fitting)
(Male Fitting) Needle valve (Female fitting)
Double Male / Male brass fitting
(female fitting) Ferrule/Compression fitting
Nylon Tubing
Ferrule / Compression Fitting (female fitting)
(male fitting) Back of Gauge
Originally posted by Pike40
JustinP20012500. I am looking at that same gauge and I have a 2001 as well. I am curious if you could share how you mounted the sending unit? Their website is not very helpful in determining what else might be needed.
JustinP20012500. I am looking at that same gauge and I have a 2001 as well. I am curious if you could share how you mounted the sending unit? Their website is not very helpful in determining what else might be needed.
I used a 1/8" to 1/4" NPT reducer and mounted the sender directly to the VP.
Here is a pic of where I mounted the guage. It has the exact same color to it as the factory cluster.
Thanks Mopar1973man just a few more questions. 1/8 NPT refers to the thread spacing right? What is the size of the fittings/line 1/8,1/4,3/8, x mm. Also this seems like a good time to change the fuel filter and get a look at the fittings at the bottom of the bowl from the inside.
Im concerned about gaskets down there ...nothing in the service manual (that I could find) describes that fuel line connection at the bottom and it's not real easy to get to.
Would like to know what Im dealing with b4 I take it apart. And is Geno's the only place that sells a tapped banjo bolt? Thanks again you have been most helpful.
Xbnkrbrkr
Im concerned about gaskets down there ...nothing in the service manual (that I could find) describes that fuel line connection at the bottom and it's not real easy to get to.
Would like to know what Im dealing with b4 I take it apart. And is Geno's the only place that sells a tapped banjo bolt? Thanks again you have been most helpful.Xbnkrbrkr
QUOTE - 1/8 NPT refers to the thread spacing right?
No. thread spacing is 27 threads per inch... 1/8 Inch Pipe Thread NPT (National Pipe Thread)
What is exactly on the tap I used for the pyro is "1/8-27 PIPE USA 286" If that gives a clue..
QUOTE - Im concerned about gaskets down there ...nothing in the service manual (that I could find) describes that fuel line connection at the bottom and it's not real easy to get to.
No it not easy to get to. The banjo bolt has sealing washers. I think Geno's sells thewashers with the bolt... If you look back at the parts you will see the two washers on the banjo...
To remove the existing bolt...
Drain the fuel filter and remove the lid to help drain it. Get so rags you going to drip fro sure... I don't remember the socket size but its a mm (metric). I used a long extension from the bottom to remove it.
On assembly of the new banjo... DON'T OVER TORQUE THE BOLT! They break easy! Just snug it up... It won't leak I promise....
The assemble the rest of it... I got to admit it not hard... It just very messy with diesel dripping on you as you try to re-assemble it... As a matter of fact I grew a extra joint in my arm to do it from the top...
Oh! You will need to reprime and refill the fuel system after this is done. Fill the fuel filter with fuel before putting the cap on. Bump the starter (without starting) and press in the scharder valve on the VP44 until fuel flows clear free of air. Then I would bump it about 5 more times to be sure... I hate to have to crack open 1,3,4 injectors...
Don't worry... It will all work out... You will be happy that you did the job yourself!
No. thread spacing is 27 threads per inch... 1/8 Inch Pipe Thread NPT (National Pipe Thread)
What is exactly on the tap I used for the pyro is "1/8-27 PIPE USA 286" If that gives a clue..
QUOTE - Im concerned about gaskets down there ...nothing in the service manual (that I could find) describes that fuel line connection at the bottom and it's not real easy to get to.
No it not easy to get to. The banjo bolt has sealing washers. I think Geno's sells thewashers with the bolt... If you look back at the parts you will see the two washers on the banjo...
To remove the existing bolt...
Drain the fuel filter and remove the lid to help drain it. Get so rags you going to drip fro sure... I don't remember the socket size but its a mm (metric). I used a long extension from the bottom to remove it.
On assembly of the new banjo... DON'T OVER TORQUE THE BOLT! They break easy! Just snug it up... It won't leak I promise....

The assemble the rest of it... I got to admit it not hard... It just very messy with diesel dripping on you as you try to re-assemble it... As a matter of fact I grew a extra joint in my arm to do it from the top...
Oh! You will need to reprime and refill the fuel system after this is done. Fill the fuel filter with fuel before putting the cap on. Bump the starter (without starting) and press in the scharder valve on the VP44 until fuel flows clear free of air. Then I would bump it about 5 more times to be sure... I hate to have to crack open 1,3,4 injectors...
Don't worry... It will all work out... You will be happy that you did the job yourself!
Justinp20012005, Thanks for the pics, looks nice. a couple more questions. You said you used a reducer and mounted directly to the VP. Is that the only attacment needed? Did you use one of the test ports? Also, has the sender lasted there ok and do you get any pulses from the VP? Thanks in advance for the info.
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