I'm selling my 01 HO and am going to a 12V. I feel I know the 24V pretty well, but dont know squat about the 12V. What are somethings I need to know about them. I know about the DKP, guages, exhaust and all that. What are some problems I should be looking for are some that may pop up. Oh yeah, I'll be getting a 98 QC auto. Thanks guys

 

Welcome back to 12V world!

Here is my newbie tutor, please read this post down a few posts, i have a good guide as to the very basics of power for your ride...

https://www.dieseltruckresource.com/...ad.php?t=78573

Problems, main one is the KDP.. get that taken care of, Even in your newer 98 auto, they are still a threat, if you get 4wd, the track bar can be a doozie as well. Stock 12V engines are very forgiving and not very troublesome, so that is all tha ti can think of

Tx

 

This site will take care of your front end problems-www.solidsteel.biz

 

The infamous "53" block is threat if you intend to BOMB as your previous truck.

 

there are numerous discussions about the 53 block and that there is limited data on 53 block 12vs cracking. actually to date pier amongst several others have all said that they have yet to see a bombed 12v 53 block crack. many suspect harmonics as well as head design and potentially casting changes as being factors in why the 12v 53 seem not to be having issues like thier counter parts. i have direct contact with 12 diff 98 12 trucks with the 53 block 6 pull heavy all are bombed heavily all over 150k miles 8 are in the 300k mile range none have failed. alternatively out of the numerous 24v owners i know i know of four 1 98.5, 2 00's and one early 01 53 blocked trucks that cracked with under 200k lightly used miles on them..... i dont worry about the block issue

check and or replace the the fuel overflow check valve, they typically get tired and need TLC...replacing a transfer pump at 150k-200k is not a bad idea also, tab the dowel pin. set the timing up to about 16.5, stuff a $200 plate in there and drive the cr ap out of it. the fuel lines some times develop leaks and the fuel shutoff selenoid might wear out on you.






good luck and enjoy.

also let me add jim fulmers 700hp 12 was aa 53 block.......that had miles and abuse on it...

 

Let me ask this. I talked with a few of the big names today about engine and tranny. I was told the tranny would be about 6,000. I expected that. I was told the engine would cost me low teens to high 20's to get it in the 600 RWHP range. What the heck. I thought 12V's were cheaper than 24's. If thats the case I'll keep my 24V seenings how I'm not that far off and all the money I've already got into it. What do ya think.

 

This combo will make over 600hp
"0" plate-free
laser cut dv's-$350
370 injectors-$300
4gsk with valve springs-$300
timing advanced-$100
a large turbo or twins-$1500-$4000
Total-$2550-5050

if you drop $20,000 on a 12v (it will not be streetable and will make 1000-1500hp)
a large turbo or twins-$1500-$4000
head oringed and studded-$800
gauges-$300
exhaust-$400
intake-$250
billet cam- $1500
billet tappets-$850
arias pistons-$2200
water injection-$3500
custom fuel pump-$2500
custon injectors-$1500
bottom end built-$2500
TOTAL-$17,800-20,300

 

Will that make 600 HP on a 215 pump or will it also work on the 180 pump. I will be getting an auto if I switch. What would a 100 plate do. I've heard that 0 plates are way to smokey. I dont like smoke.

 

Dont forget

what halerazer said is just on the engine alone, that dont include the drivetrain to be beefed to handle that HP.. my question is, Just how much HP will already made turbos, IE PDR Street twins really make? can u get 600 rwhp outta that set? or do u need a custom set?

Tx

 

a "0" plate alone is not smokey at all, 370's alittle smoke and laser dv's lots of smoke. look at my truck regular driving around town i have a slight haze but at 3/4 to full throttle i'll shut down a 4 lane highway, but thats with a stock turbo.guys are making 550-600hp on a single like a b1,hx55 or htb2 http://www.htturbo.com/. twins would probably make around 600-1500hp depending on how much lag you want.[IMG] [/IMG]

 

I plan on building the tranny. I've got that covered. I also plan on doing twins. I talked with Peirs and they said street/strip twins would handle 600 HP. So I've got that covered. What I'm trying to figure out is how to get 600 HP out of the motor with out spending 15-20+ thousand. It just sounds like to much. I know it can be down. I'm just trying to figure out how. Wounldn't 100 plate cut down on smoke but still have the top end fuel of a 0 plate. Am I better off just sticking with my 01. I'm pretty close to 500 HP now. With an HR44 some head work (which I'll probably need anyway), bigger injectors, and twins. I could be close to 600 on my 24. I dont know I'm just rambeling. I'm trying to figure this all out.

 

100 would probably be better for street. 370 injectors,4gsk and laser dv's would be under $1000 and put you over 600hp with the twins. like i said though if you just want a nice looking 600hp street truck stick with your 24v, but a 12v the pump is alot more reliable and gives you the option of going over 1000hp later on down the road, but 12v's don't have as nice of an interior unless you get a 98

 

I do sled pulls with my 01 which is what I'd do with the 12v. If I were to get one it would be a 98. I need the QC. It's easier to get my daughter in and out. I'd also be switching from the manual to an auto. I also want to go to a long bed.
Sorry to ask the same question but will the combo about make over 600 with the 180 pump or will I have to find a 215 pump. If I need to find a 215 pump were would be a good place to look? junk yard? My goal for right know is 600, but would like to shoot for 800+ down the road.

 

Will the 4Kgsk work with a built auto. I've heard the dont.

 

If you dont want smoke, and you're willing to put some money in to the truck, stay away from 370s. You can get a much better set of injectors that are less smokey and will offer more power. More $$ yes (at least twice as much. $800-1000 for the set) but less smokey and better all around.