jriggs_18

After talking to dave goerend I have decided I think I will be ordering a fully built trans from him and get it shipped to me, my plan as of now is to have a smarty and edge jammer 5's standing by and install them at the same time as my trans. Now I know its pushing my turbo but I was wondering what you all think I will be making HP wise with the juice on 5x5 and smarty on 8 or 9, and what kind of boost numbers will I be looking at, I dont tow much when I do its not heavy, but I realize racing or whatever that I may have to drive by the pyro, or the boost gauge, but I think I will be able to tolerate it for a year or so til I can put a better turbo on, Would there be anyway to cheaply make mine a hybrid to accomadate more boost, Sorry for the dumb ?'s but I am kind of lost when it comes to turbos. Thanks

97' CTD

Im pretty sure it's all hot air after 35Lbs. I really dont know what the limit
is I have had my HX35 to 45Lbs numerous times
just to see what it would take but I dont think this is a wise
choice

joshua smith

i have had my boost up to as high as 38.7 lbs of boost, this coming from the digital guages that i have. it take a lot to get it there.

1997 CTD 2500 4X4 ex-cab long box 235,000, gear vendors "8" speed overdrive, stage 5 TST fuel plate, 4" exhaust, 370 injectors, full DTT trans, turbo silencer MIA, X-monitor guages, 4:10 gears w/limited slip, new style tow mirrors, stock turbo and pump

2004.5 CTD H.O. 2500 4X4 4 door long box, stock

HOHN

I've had my stock '35 up to 38psi. Definitely a no-no on the stock charger, though it is a tough little bugger.

I run a Smarty and 150hp Don M injectors just fine with the stock turbo. I don't really tow, though, as this setup is not a towing combo. You can tow with it, it will just be miserable because the last 100hp or so is not available to you.

With an undersized turbo, EGT is always a concern. But you have an auto trans, so spoolup is also a huge concern. Auto trannys make turbo selection tougher, because they need even more spoolup to hit the converter, but they also need more airflow from a bigger turbo because you aren't shutting off the fuel to shift.

On my 6-speed, I get away with the stocker because I'm lifting when shifting. Ask a guy with an auto tranny and he'll tell you they tend to run much higher EGT overall because of the constant load on the engine.

If you install the Jammer 5s, you'll have to run your box down to 1x1 and Smarty #4 to let any towing happen. Even then, watch the EGT like a hawk.

You are a prime candidate for a HTT Super 71 series 62mm turbo (AKA super stock 62)

JMO

XJJoe01

The Infamous HOHN super duper one size fits all magical turbo!!! I can't wait until I have one


Joe

HOHN

As much as I shill for that turbo, you'd think they'd have sent me one by now

Brendan

I'm having no trouble hitting 42 psi in OD at WOT, what damage might this be causing?

Ph4tty

Besides running high temps because the turbo is out of its range, the turbo is spinning so fast at those boost levels it might just grenade into your engine Also at 42 lbs of boost the drive pressure will be more than 50 so your head gasket is being stressed and might eventually blow.

And to help answer jriggs question- High Tech Turbo will rebuild your 35 into a 35/40 hybrid for a few hundred smackers if you can't afford the latest and greatest. The hybrids are good for around 41 lbs of boost iirc.

jerky1280

Can they do that with the HY35?

RowJ

Nope...Sorry.

Brendan - Your turbo will probably survive at 42 psi...as long as it's not all the time. The HX-35 is a tough little turbo. But why do it? Above 35-36 psi you are loosing HP. What your seeing on your gauge is "expansion" boost pressure from over heated air (due to over-reving the turbo). What you want is real "compression" boost pressure.
Let the wastegate do its thing!
RJ

Gotlift01

Well in Jriggs case they can do that to his since he has a '99 and has the HX35. Now for us poor chaps with a 2001 or 2002 we don't have that option with the HY35.


~Nick

bamadzl

I run Jammer 5's and a Smarty with the stock turbo and it's not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Granted, I don't tow often, but I tow around 8-10k on occasion and it's not unbearable. Would I do it everyday? Absolutely NOT.

Just thought you might like an opposing view.

Brad

Ph4tty

You can look for a used hx35 and send it in, but unless you find a killer deal you'd almost be to the price of a dodgezilla or piers 35/40. Something like this is still nearly 1/2 the price of most the aftermarket turbos availible.

KVD

I was lookin last night.

The stage III HTT turbo kit is 325 and then they say you need some internal machinin that can be done for 81 dollars.

The stage III supports 400 horsepower and comes with the 60mm 8 blade wheel and a new housin.

Really thats not bad 500 bucks and you get a good turbo.

ckt_santiago

Well, I did it a few times with my monster... Then one day when I was passing someone I grenaded the compressor wheel. Not too bad it spiral snapped the shaft and jammed the compressor wheel into the back of the compressor housing before it could come apart too bad. But hey, I can't complain I ended up with a $250 16cm HX40 to put on Boost went from an easy 42psi to 30psi WOT.

One thing that those of us with a '94 have to keep in mind is that we have a WH1C and not an HX35... Basically we have the same turbo as a 1st gen just minus the slow spooling 16.5cm exhaust housing, which is replaced by a 12cm waste gated housing. Unfortunately anything over 32psi for us is just hot air and they aren't as durable as the HX35. Not to mention we can't send ours in to have rebuilt into a hybrid. Though you can find an H1E compressor housing and wheel and send it to your local turbo shop to install and balance. This would make an equivalent of an HX35/40 hybrid