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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 10:47 AM
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I will be installing the 3000 rpm govenor spring this week and I need to know what the other spring is called to give my truck more fuel a low end rps. I just can`t remember what its called CRS lol has set in. I have the 10 torque plate and AFE cold air kit and from what I read here my 95 Ram should tow great with these mods. I hope you all can tell what I`am needing and can tell me where I can go to find this spring. I will be getting a fiver style dump trailer in June with the frame made from 6" C channel ,16" wheels and tarp. I know the stock tranny will be needed soon lol. thanks Don T
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 01:29 PM
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It is the AFC spring - turning the top of the star-wheel towards the motor is more fuel at low boost, away is less fuel at low boost. This sets the preload on the spring. Located towards the firewall end of the pump, under a cover that takes an 8mm Allen wrench to remove. Easily adjusted with a small flat blade screwdriver.
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 03:46 PM
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I would think from stock if you change a setting by replace a part like a torque plate the setting you would use to tune must be changed also.I have put my 10 tp in the same position as stock plate. This week I will install the 3000 rpm governor spring kit and then move on to a spring replacement idea that I saw on Trucks TV. Then when I have that installed I will play with my settings for the star wheel and moving the tp toward the pump. Timing and valve adjust also. I think there is a spring yet to change that will let my 5.9 fuel faster at low rpm `s. I will have to watch and listen to that show again and catch what it was called . I got the time lol.
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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With the plate installed there are a few items you need to adjust as well.. One would be the AFC position on the plate. Second would be the zero boost fuel setting on the back of the AFC housing and THird would be the AFC spring tension or starwheel.

To get full benefit of the plate, depending on where you place it, sliding the AFC forward will help with being able to adjust low RPM fuel. When you slide it you will need to loosen off the zero boost screw on the end of the AFC housing to let the AFC arm back to control boost/fuel ratio. Then at full boost situations, your AFC will clear the plate and allow full fueling of the plate.

Be careful if you have the auto. The #10 plate will wear on it with low end fuel and start to take its toll on the clutches and TC if you tow. Even with only moderate fueling.
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 07:39 PM
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Yup, you can also replace that AFC spring with one of a different rate to assist tuning. I don't remember another spring related to tuning other than the governor spring and AFC spring. If you find it let me know - I want to learn more about how to tune my truck.
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
With the plate installed there are a few items you need to adjust as well.. One would be the AFC position on the plate. Second would be the zero boost fuel setting on the back of the AFC housing and THird would be the AFC spring tension or starwheel.

To get full benefit of the plate, depending on where you place it, sliding the AFC forward will help with being able to adjust low RPM fuel. When you slide it you will need to loosen off the zero boost screw on the end of the AFC housing to let the AFC arm back to control boost/fuel ratio. Then at full boost situations, your AFC will clear the plate and allow full fueling of the plate.

Be careful if you have the auto. The #10 plate will wear on it with low end fuel and start to take its toll on the clutches and TC if you tow. Even with only moderate fueling.
Well my wife and myself have a trip planned with my fiver in two years. She turns 60 and we are driving around Canada for a few months. I know a good tranny is just down the road for me.Running empty, the truck is a blast.Is there a mod that you replace the afc spring to allow low rpm fueling? We looked at a newer fiver last week end and they are some light fivers out there.I think my old truck could pull a bigger fiver .
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Old Apr 18, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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I saw a different spring could be installed. I just have to find out an order number for it. my truck works good now from 1150 to 2000 and then it loses something that the 3000 govern spring should fix. I still have the stock TC and the tranny had the pressure turned up. A good strong tranny now (soon) and I will have a good working truck.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 11:15 AM
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A good torque converter and minor mods to the tranny will make a huge difference in the way the truck pulls. A good TC will help in keeping the engine locked to the drivetrain for hill braking. My Father-in-law had the #10 and 3KGSK in his 95 auto and towed a lighter TT with it for a few years in the mountains on the stock tranny but it finally started to slip.

After a minor rebuild to the tranny, it was night and day as far as shifting and holding gear on the hills. More power to the ground.

With the 95 160 engine, the AFC spring is not necessary to replace. Its soft enough as it is.
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Old Apr 19, 2011 | 06:43 PM
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Here you go> http://www.tstproducts.com/tstafcspringkit.aspx

Instructions> http://www.tstproducts.com/pdffiles/AFC-KIT8.pdf
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 07:05 AM
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I did have the 3000 rpm G spring installed and ask the guy a bunch of questions. lol,I can say there was a big change in how my truck pulls now.Now from OD and hit the trailer tow I don`t see the drop in speed I saw before. It pulls now above 2100 rpm.If we get some good warm weather soon I will have to take the fiver out and see the difference the spring and the Maxbreak will be this year.The brake controller works sweet . Thanks guys for all the help with my truck ! I see I do have to baby the trans now lol. Later Don T
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 07:35 PM
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Truck had a little drive today. I got to say i`am a happy camper now .The truck just works so nice and smooth.I can hit the trailer tow button ( OD off) at slow it down to 45 mph and it will move right out and after 2100 will fuel up . At 55 turn off trailer tow and let the truck shift and lock in OD . I know it will go 100 mph now and will never see that again. Can`t Waite to see how my fiver pulls now. I think I will be happy on the hills now. Thanks a bunch for all the great mods listed on this site and all the help. Later Don T
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Old Apr 24, 2011 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Lil Dog
A good torque converter and minor mods to the tranny will make a huge difference in the way the truck pulls. A good TC will help in keeping the engine locked to the drivetrain for hill braking. My Father-in-law had the #10 and 3KGSK in his 95 auto and towed a lighter TT with it for a few years in the mountains on the stock tranny but it finally started to slip.

After a minor rebuild to the tranny, it was night and day as far as shifting and holding gear on the hills. More power to the ground.

With the 95 160 engine, the AFC spring is not necessary to replace. Its soft enough as it is.
That advice is good to know , I`am looking to buy a tc now. I need some advice as what to buy ? I read about stall speed and well i`am not sure what I should have for towing ! I tow a Golden Falcon tour edition with two 5500 axles and a gvw of 10500 lbs so the sign says . I use the TC lock switch I installed all the time. Can you tell me what and where your Father-in- law got his new TC . thanks Don T
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